FileHandler wrote:Standard practice? Not my experience. Not with software on TPFC - irrespective of pure portable or some kind of install-procedure like .paf.exe - and also not my experience with GPL licenses in general.
Uh, I said that portable software users usually don't run into bundleware.
SYSTEM wrote:
However, in the case of portable software, the user usually doesn't run an installer anyway (the program is in a ZIP or 7z archive, or the installer can be extracted with Universal Extractor).
SYSTEM wrote:
"Run the installer and beware bundled offers" is not something that our extraction instructions normally contain.
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FileHandler wrote:
You are SYSTEM, you define what becomes standard practice on TPFC.
I don't get what you're trying to say here.
If there is someone who defines "standard practice" here, it's Andrew, the founder of TPFC. I am just a member among others.
FileHandler wrote:
I apologize for quoting you wrongly. I was under the impression you regretted that the "... strict policy against bundleware or adware .... is no longer enforced in practice."
I merely pointed out that you misunderstood me.
I indeed regret that the "... strict policy against bundleware or adware .... is no longer enforced in practice." Moreover, when I didn't know that FreeFileSync installer can be extracted, I thought that FreeFileSync should be removed (or, more accurately, hidden) from our database.
However, when I said "strict", I didn't mean as strict as you thought.
As I said, bundleware is a much smaller problem in portable software because portable software isn't installed. There is no need to launch an installer, and no opportunity for a nonexistent installer to show crapware offers.
I find there isn't any problem as long as the visitor doesn't
see any crapware offers. I still consider such a policy to be strict compared with almost any freeware website.
FileHandler wrote:
I still think you would better understand my objections if you had been affected personally, or read certain user reports, or heard what our helpdesk had to say to one particular hellishly malicious bundle that came with FFS and especially the way it was bundled.
Might be. I indeed haven't been affected personally. Maybe it's caused by my preference to use portable software; my ability to detect the offers and avoid crapware from being installed; or maybe just being lucky. Doesn't matter - I indeed don't know what it feels like to be hit by crapware, and don't want to know either.
FileHandler wrote:
Getting tired to fight this losing battle. Thanks for taking the time respond, though. No bad feelings or resentments, I respect your decision. Good Bye.
First, I don't consider this discussion to be a battle. Second, I don't make decisions here.
And in any case, this is a discussion that the TPFC community needed to have sooner or later.