As can Telegram, BTW...Marc1 wrote: ↑Signal's use is not limited to just private messaging, as it can also be used for group chats and voice/video calls.
As did I since the first Samsung Galaxy, my first 'smartphone' -- and I have vocally opposed the move in several instances because, although I've been a Telegram user for almost a decade now, I really believe it's very ill suited for this particular purpose -- but, alas, I am no developer...Andrew Lee wrote: ↑Any idea why? I still mostly rely on XDA when I need a custom ROM for my old phones.
) were all by Xiaomi, on account of their unbeatable feature/price ratios, and most news and releases hit Telegram first and lots don't even reach XDA-Devs anymore -- XDA-Devs stringent anti-Telegram rules no doubt play a big part here, too. 
From past experience, and unless the hardware doesn't fully support your region specs or there wasn't a strong community scene proposing global ROM alternatives, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Chinese model.Andrew Lee wrote: ↑latest Find X6 flagship has been not been offered for the global market for an unusually long time now since its initial release in China, which makes me wonder whether there's some nasty undercurrent below the surface.
Yes and it works well.hatakerandy wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:20 am Is the group video calling feature available in Signal? Didn't know it exist.
Thank you for sharing this information about Telegram and Signal. It's important to consider the differences in encryption, code transparency, and data handling when choosing a messaging platform.Shown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:26 amI hope there is no problem to post my first post here because yesterday when I register I submitted a post in chit chat section of this forum and when I login into forum today my post doesn't not appear where I post it, so I am starting from here.hamasaki wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:54 pm Telegram is pretty slick, both with the portable version and the mobile version. Being able to add multiple accounts in the same interface is terrific. Signal is fine though, we use it a lot here in Hong Kong. They've ironed out a few bugs in the last few weeks and it seems more reliable now. Going from FmwhatsappWhatsApp it's an easy transition as Signal is very similar and easier to use. I prefer Telegram though personally.
The big things as I see them:
Signal is always end-to-end encrypted. Telegram isn't unless you use secret chats. Group messages are not encrypted.
Telegram uses proprietary encryption (once enabled). This is considered bad practice by security professionals.
Signal's server code is open source as well as it's app code meaning its entire code base can be peer reviewed and scrutinized for issues. Telegram's server code is closed source and proprietary. Their app code is open.
Signal is entirely non-profit and funded by donations.
Signal stores as little metadata and user info as possible, less than Telegram.
That is entirely true.anna77 wrote: ↑While Telegram does offer end-to-end encryption in the form of "secret chats," it's important for users to be aware that regular group messages are not encrypted.
The openness of code is also significant. Signal's commitment to open source code allows for peer review and scrutiny, which can help identify and address any potential security vulnerabilities. Telegram, while providing an open-source app code, keeps its server code closed source and proprietary.
Running a global messenger with tens of millions of users (Signal) or hundreds of millions of users (Telegram) is not cheap.
Telegram is managed and funded by Russian social media billionaire Pavel Durov, and operates from undisclosed locations. In its early years, the messenger became famous as the platform of choice for dissidents and protesters and, unfortunately, for criminals and extremists, all looking to keep their communications out of the reach of the authorities. Despite its lack of end-to-end encryption by default and the fact it holds decryption keys, Telegram says that to access messages it needs keys from different jurisdictions to frustrate any attempts by law enforcement to access content. This gives a good insight into the original philosophy behind Telegram.
Signal was founded by a security researcher who uses the name Moxie Marlinspike for his public profile. Until 2018, the platform was fairly niche and unless you worked in some form of security field, it was unlikely to be found on your phone. But then Brian Acton, one of WhatsApp’s founders, left Facebook and ploughed $50 million into Signal to help take it mainstream. Prior to Acton’s involvement, Signal was fairly clunky to use, you really needed to want its enhanced security.
Signal has taken a bold step in transparency by unveiling the operational expenses of its messenger service, a move aimed at safeguarding user privacy. In a recent blog post, the Signal Foundation, responsible for managing Signal, detailed the operating costs for the first time, disclosing approximately $40 million for the current year, with projections reaching $50 million by 2025.
A story shared (https://x.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948) by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly “secure” messaging app, are activists used by the US state department (https://www.city-journal.org/article/si ... er-problem) for regime change abroad
The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference
An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick
🛡 Telegram is the only massively popular messaging service that allows everyone to make sure (https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds) that all of its apps indeed use the same open source code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private
Meredith Whittaker has had it with the "frat house" contingent of the tech industry. I sat down with the President of Signal at VivaTech in Paris to go over the wide range of serious, grown-up issues society is facing, from disinformation, to who controls AI, to the encroaching surveillance state.
Whittaker is concerned about the concentration of power in the five main social media platforms, especially in a year when the world faces a large number of general elections, not least in the US, and Europe’s reliance on US-based, external, tech giants.
A story shared (
The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference 
An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick 
