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Ini translator

#1 Post by remialdo » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:51 am

Ini Translator is a utility program to translate ini-style language files and has a look and feel reminiscent of poEdit (a great language editor for gnu gettext files). Ini-style language files are pretty common in Windows and are used by programs like Inno Setup, ISTool, FlashGet and Wallpaper Sequencer to name a few. The program runs of Windows 98/Me/XP/2000.

http://initranslator.sourceforge.net/wi ... /Main_Page

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#2 Post by nake89 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:28 am

There are many programs like this but this is really nice!

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#3 Post by Midas » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:27 am

Old topic update: IniTranslator -- which, BTW, is not natively portable -- has seen its development stall, but it is still one of the best utilities of its kind; there's a PortableApps.com package (v1.9.0.52) for download at:

http://portableapps.com/apps/developmen ... r-portable

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Unfortunately, with most PAc apps one is liable to get error messages such as this one upon minor fiddling:

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I solved this easily, but (one of my major gripes with PAcs is) it irks me to call this a portable, when it complains about being moved and immediately requests "re-install"ation?

I always thought installation was what we're trying to avoid with all this portable apps grand bazaar... :evil:

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Re: Ini translator

#4 Post by guinness » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:37 am

I don't understand the point of this application?
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Re: IniTranslator

#5 Post by JohnTHaller » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:32 pm

Midas wrote:Unfortunately, with most PAc apps one is liable to get error messages such as this one upon minor fiddling:

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I solved this easily, but (one of my major gripes with PAcs is) it irks me to call this a portable, when it complains about being moved and immediately requests "re-install"ation?

I always thought installation was what we're trying to avoid with all this portable apps grand bazaar... :evil:

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Minor fiddling? By renaming the INITranslatorPortable.ini file, you completely broke the app, essentially leaving the PA.c Launcher with no reference for what app it's supposed to be, how to start it, etc. You can't just open up an application consisting of multiple files and rename a random one and expect it to still work. This can happen with ANY app, portable or non when you randomly rename critical files. That's why there's a readme.txt in the App directory which states: "The files in this directory are necessary for the portable application to function. There is normally no need to directly access or alter any of the files within these directories." Quit breaking things. :P

UPDATE: Scratch that, I just realized what you did. You renamed INITranslatorPortable.exe to something else (with the same result as what I mentioned above). When you do that, it looks for the *.ini file of the same name within App\Launcher. When it can't find it, it asks you to reinstall. Bottom line: You can't rename the AppNamePortable.exe launcher as lots of things are keyed to it. I am curious why you are renaming it, though, as there's really no reason to.
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Re: Ini translator

#6 Post by tproli » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:50 pm

I have used Poedit recently and it seems a nice alternative to other filetypes than .po.

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It is for translating language files. For example I could open up DropIt .lng files to translate (though there may be issues with the encoding, DropIt needs UCS-2 Little Endian which is not included in the supported encodings as I see)

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Re: Ini translator

#7 Post by guinness » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:27 pm

Why does DropIt need UCS-2 Little Endian?
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#8 Post by tproli » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:06 pm

That was the only way to show special Hungarian characters but I guess Lupo73 has a more precise explanation :)

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#9 Post by guinness » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:28 pm

I know the reason why, but wondering how you knew about this.
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#10 Post by tproli » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:57 pm

As the official Hungarian translator of DropIt I have to :)

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#11 Post by Lupo73 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:01 am

Encoding aspects are a few tricky for me, so it isn't a more precise explanation :mrgreen: I only found it was the solution to support all languages, but let know if it is possible to simplify it.

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Re: IniTranslator

#12 Post by Midas » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:11 am

JohnTHaller wrote:I am curious why you are renaming it, though, as there's really no reason to.
Basically, my system, my whims. But good detective work, nonetheless.

For the sake of explanation, I always try to trim down my portable folder's arborescence since I keep hundreds of programs there and I manage them personally, not through a launcher; thus, I minimize the amount of folders to oversee and my navigation effort; but, first and foremost, I keep everything human readable and moderately intuitive...
tproli wrote:I have used Poedit recently and it seems a nice alternative to other filetypes than .po.
I have used POedit; for various reasons I have grown to acutely dislike it -- mainly because of the cumbersome interface and various episodes of lost work...

If I had to choose one program for localization work, my vote would got to Qt Linguist, which unfortunately is not natively portable nor does it have an official download site.

Official Qt (currently v5.0.1, full Qt package includes Linguist) pages:
http://qt.digia.com/
http://qt-project.org/downloads

Obsolete but isolated Qt Linguist (v4.6.0) downloads:
http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Qt+ ... tent=89360
http://code.google.com/p/qtlinguistdownload/
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Hom ... uist.shtml

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Re: Ini translator

#13 Post by guinness » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:29 am

tproli wrote:As the official Hungarian translator of DropIt I have to :)
Well really it's UTF-16, but the character encoding in AutoIt is actually UCS-2, see >> http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/topic ... try1054676

Source: http://www.unicode.org/faq/basic_q.html#14
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#14 Post by JohnTHaller » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:44 am

As for encoding of INI files, different programming environments support different types of encodings. The Windows API for reading and writing INI files only supports ANSI and UCS-2LE. UTF8 won't work right. And, as lots of folks have noted, some languages can't be represented in ANSI at all as they have no code page. So they have to be done in UTF8 or UCS-2(UTF16). And, since the Windows API doesn't handle UTF8 INI files correctly and expects Little Endian with Unicode, you get to use UCS-2LE. We ran into this years ago with the PortableApps.com Platform's language files, which are INI files, as we support about 60 languages including several without ANSI code pages.
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