Is Radiosure gone forever?

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#16 Post by Philiweb » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:52 am

Hello to all

@Midas : I only used 2 "nicknames" : Philiweb (here) and GHbasicuser ("GH"= GitHub). :)

@giulia : Alas, there is no longer a way to get an automatic download from RadioSure. :| (Unless one day someone buys the "radiosure.com" domain name to enable this again, or “modify” the radiosure.exe file = not a good idea, unless you are the author.)

A few weeks ago I switched to QMPlay2, in particular because I appreciate these features missing from RadioSure : the display of album covers (on some radios), and the possibility of watching some TV channels (broadcasted in "HLS") like France 24 and BBC News.

This software is connected to the most recent version of Radio-Browser's DB (which also contains HLS links), and both are "Open-source" ! :D

At the first use Its interface may seem confusing compared to RadioSure (because it allows many other things than the radio), but very quickly I saw that it was possible to make it more “user-friendly” (ia: by creating a "profile" with fewer open widgets, by customizing the colors, by moving the widget windows, etc). It's really a software to consider for 100% radio use (and not only).

@bitcoins : yes, this should make life easier for RadioSure users, and the additions to the Radio-Browser's database will benefit everyone, regardless of the (compatible) player they use. :)

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#17 Post by Midas » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:03 am

Philiweb wrote: @Midas : I only used 2 "nicknames" : Philiweb (here) and GHbasicuser ("GH"= GitHub). :)
Oh, my bad, sorry... As you were, then. 8)

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#18 Post by giulia » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:40 am

Philiweb wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:52 am
Hello to all

@Midas : I only used 2 "nicknames" : Philiweb (here) and GHbasicuser ("GH"= GitHub). :)

@giulia : Alas, there is no longer a way to get an automatic download from RadioSure. :| (Unless one day someone buys the "radiosure.com" domain name to enable this again, or “modify” the radiosure.exe file = not a good idea, unless you are the author.)

A few weeks ago I switched to QMPlay2, in particular because I appreciate these features missing from RadioSure : the display of album covers (on some radios), and the possibility of watching some TV channels (broadcasted in "HLS") like France 24 and BBC News.

This software is connected to the most recent version of Radio-Browser's DB (which also contains HLS links), and both are "Open-source" ! :D

At the first use Its interface may seem confusing compared to RadioSure (because it allows many other things than the radio), but very quickly I saw that it was possible to make it more “user-friendly” (ia: by creating a "profile" with fewer open widgets, by customizing the colors, by moving the widget windows, etc). It's really a software to consider for 100% radio use (and not only).

@bitcoins : yes, this should make life easier for RadioSure users, and the additions to the Radio-Browser's database will benefit everyone, regardless of the (compatible) player they use. :)
hi Philiweb
but QMPlay2 isn't portable ,is it?
thanks

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#19 Post by Philiweb » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:10 am

giulia wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:40 am
hi Philiweb
but QMPlay2 isn't portable ,is it?
thanks
QMplay2 can also be used in portable mode. By simply creating empty file "portable" (without file extension) near the QMPlay2.exe file. 8)

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#20 Post by freakazoid » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:28 am

webfork wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:13 am
You might look into StreamWriter https://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2105 -- I found it somewhat annoying during initial setup, but it's packed with features.
Speaking of streamWriter, I just started using this heavily again over the past week.

The #1 best feature of streamWriter is the Title Search feature, which I mentioned over here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/index. ... mment27854

Based on the recommendations in this thread, I gave QMPlay2 a test drive. While there is a nice integration with radio-browser.info, I don't think I can live without streamWriter's Title Search feature. What gives QMPlay2 the edge is support for .opus radio streams, but I don't know many popular radio stations using .opus at the moment. For the few streams that support .opus, the track metadata mostly doesn't work. This isn't a QMPlay2 problem though.

One problem I have with radio-browser.info is many of the streams default to HTTP, when many do support HTTPS. I guess the problem is with the users submitting the web stream URLs though.
is it stealth? ;)

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#21 Post by giulia » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:17 pm

freakazoid wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:28 am
webfork wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:13 am
You might look into StreamWriter https://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2105 -- I found it somewhat annoying during initial setup, but it's packed with features.
Speaking of streamWriter, I just started using this heavily again over the past week.

The #1 best feature of streamWriter is the Title Search feature, which I mentioned over here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/index. ... mment27854

Based on the recommendations in this thread, I gave QMPlay2 a test drive. While there is a nice integration with radio-browser.info, I don't think I can live without streamWriter's Title Search feature. What gives QMPlay2 the edge is support for .opus radio streams, but I don't know many popular radio stations using .opus at the moment. For the few streams that support .opus, the track metadata mostly doesn't work. This isn't a QMPlay2 problem though.

One problem I have with radio-browser.info is many of the streams default to HTTP, when many do support HTTPS. I guess the problem is with the users submitting the web stream URLs though.
Hi
yes great software but it's not portable stealth
can't understand why they don't want to do it
by the way the radiosure database was really huge
thanks
Philiweb wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:10 am
giulia wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:40 am
hi Philiweb
but QMPlay2 isn't portable ,is it?
thanks
QMplay2 can also be used in portable mode. By simply creating empty file "portable" (without file extension) near the QMPlay2.exe file. 8)
hi
well it's portable but not stealth
thanks

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#22 Post by Philiweb » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:31 pm

freakazoid wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:28 am
One problem I have with radio-browser.info is many of the streams default to HTTP, when many do support HTTPS. I guess the problem is with the users submitting the web stream URLs though.
A possible explanation.. Some old OS (or player) may have imperfect SSL support, this problem exists with Radiosure : https://web.archive.org/web/20201020230 ... =2&t=13258

But concerning Radio-Browser things may change. :) The author wrote this a few months ago:
this is a feature that is actually on my todo list.
i want to test every stream for http and https support and then add another selector in the search endpoint
to get only http, only https or both streams as result
BUT it will take time until i get to it
(source)

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#23 Post by Midas » Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:13 am

Philiweb wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:31 pm
Concerning Radio-Browser things may change. :) The author wrote this a few months ago:
this is a feature that is actually on my todo list.
i want to test every stream for http and https support and then add another selector in the search endpoint
to get only http, only https or both streams as result
BUT it will take time until i get to it
(source)
Which reminds me that my current workplace blocks most streaming by invisible proxy (Squid) -- the only ones that work are the ones working over HTTP defaults (port 80)...

Aside from that, any insights on Pocket Radio Player (https://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=2721) or Qmmp (https://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=2798) in the present context?

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#24 Post by freakazoid » Sun May 01, 2022 1:55 pm

Midas wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:13 am
Aside from that, any insights on Pocket Radio Player (https://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=2721) or Qmmp (https://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=2798) in the present context?
I haven't tested Pocket Radio Player, but I've used Qmmp in the past. I'd rather use XMPlay instead of Qmmp. Other than QMPlay2, XMPlay also supports .opus radio streams, but you have to manually add the stream to the playlist.
is it stealth? ;)

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#25 Post by Midas » Mon May 02, 2022 4:54 am

Midas wrote: Which reminds me that my current workplace blocks most streaming by invisible proxy (Squid) -- the only ones that work are the ones working over HTTP defaults (port 80)...
For a little further context, that means that this -- http://ice1.somafm.com/groovesalad-128-aac -- works, but this -- http://somafm.com/groovesalad130.pls or any of the direct URLs therein -- doesn't...
freakazoid wrote: I'd rather use XMPlay instead of Qmmp. Other than QMPlay2, XMPlay also supports .opus radio streams, but you have to manually add the stream to the playlist.
FYI, XMPlay topic at viewtopic.php?t=166; homepage is at http://www.un4seen.com/xmplay.html.

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#26 Post by Philiweb » Mon May 09, 2022 6:19 am

Philiweb wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:47 am
Good news. :)

On the Github repository created by "JazzfanRS", I proposed to create a converter to feed RadioSure with data from the Radio-Browser database.

And today "francois-neouser" has created one that should soon allow us to download new RadioSure database updates for years to come. :D
Philippe
Hello

The francois-neosurf server (author of the Radio-Browser to RadioSure database converter) now offers new radio station updates for RadioSure. :D
  • You can download them here : http://82.66.77.189:8080/ (The latest database contains more than 30,000 radio stations.)
    Installation : replace the ".rsd" file in the "Stations" sub-folder of RadioSure with the one contained in the archive.
And if you're looking for a way to automatically find and install the latest base, I made this VBS script : Philippe

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Re: is radiosure gone forver?

#27 Post by giulia » Mon May 09, 2022 6:34 am

Philiweb wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 6:19 am
Philiweb wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:47 am
Good news. :)

On the Github repository created by "JazzfanRS", I proposed to create a converter to feed RadioSure with data from the Radio-Browser database.

And today "francois-neouser" has created one that should soon allow us to download new RadioSure database updates for years to come. :D
Philippe
Hello

The francois-neosurf server (author of the Radio-Browser to RadioSure database converter) now offers new radio station updates for RadioSure. :D
  • You can download them here : http://82.66.77.189:8080/ (The latest database contains more than 30,000 radio stations.)
    Installation : replace the ".rsd" file in the "Stations" sub-folder of RadioSure with the one contained in the archive.
And if you're looking for a way to automatically find and install the latest base, I made this VBS script : Philippe
Wow Philippe
beutiful job , really ,keeping radiosure! is Epic , best internet radio
thanks Philippe

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#28 Post by Philiweb » Mon May 09, 2022 6:38 am

We had to deal with constraints, improvements are being studied, but for now it's already working well. :)

[About the VBSscript]
  • If it can help, there is an easier way than the copy/paste method in a text editor :idea: :
Image [About RadioSure]
  • The latest version of RadioSure (dated 2016) is v°2.2.1046 (with HLS M3U8 support).

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#29 Post by giulia » Fri May 13, 2022 1:23 am

Hi Philippe
Could i add some radio stations? and how?
thanks

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Re: Is Radiosure gone forever?

#30 Post by Philiweb » Fri May 13, 2022 2:05 am

Hi Giulia

To add new radio stations, the "easiest way" is to go to this page of the Radio-Browser.info website :) : https://www.radio-browser.info/add

Care must be taken to enter the correct informations when adding a radio, because since a few years it is no longer possible to modify them. :| (due to vandalism.)
• More informations here : https://www.radio-browser.info/faq
• New stations that never worked will get deleted after 2 days.
• Stations that worked at some point, but have not been working for at least 6 days now will get deleted.


On the other hand, it means that the (~30000) radio stations in the base have no major problems and are listenable. :wink:

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