[Edit page] Move release date field next to version field

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Move "Release date" next to "Version" field in the editing page?

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[Edit page] Move release date field next to version field

#1 Post by vevy » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:01 pm

Version and release date are intricately-related fields. They almost always change together.

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#2 Post by Andrew Lee » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:31 pm

Makes sense, and a real easy change.

I have done it for the CLI edit page. If there are no intense objections, I will do it for the main site edit page as well in a couple of days.

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#3 Post by Midas » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:35 am

I agreed. :sunglasses:

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#4 Post by webfork » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:36 pm

I'd actually make an objection in the other direction: let's make an effort to change all fields to group by topic or relationship now.

I say this because I've worked out a batch posting function to get multiple entries up quickly, due to the fact that I now have a rather long list of programs that are portable and I want to add to the database once I get a free weekend. Since changes break the script I came up with, I'd like to just get that all sorted out now rather than repeatedly tweak my script.

So if you had anything other than the release date, I'd like to work that out now.

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#5 Post by vevy » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:42 pm

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Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:25 am
PS Just so you know, I have been contemplating suggesting revamping the entry edit page based on related fields/view presentation and better fit things together instead of every little field in a separate line. But first, I'd like to hear from you and other members, especially billon.
For starters, I'd move the release date next to the version field, since both are usually changed together.
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Re: [Edit page] Move release date field next to version field

#6 Post by webfork » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:05 am

vevy wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:42 pm
:oops:
vevy wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:25 am
PS Just so you know, I have been contemplating suggesting revamping the entry edit page based on related fields/view presentation and better fit things together instead of every little field in a separate line. But first, I'd like to hear from you and other members, especially billon.
For starters, I'd move the release date next to the version field, since both are usually changed together.
Works for me.

I spent some time today looking through stuff I'd like to rearrange but couldn't find anything wrong with the current setup. The separation into "required" and "optional" fields seems very logical, and most of the elements mirror entry construction (e.g. screenshot comes after icon). I don't see anything that stands out as either misplaced or disorganized.

So not sure what other changes are necessary to group into this batch of changes I suggested. Maybe it's just the one.

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#7 Post by vevy » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:00 pm

webfork wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:05 am
Works for me.

I spent some time today looking through stuff I'd like to rearrange but couldn't find anything wrong with the current setup. The separation into "required" and "optional" fields seems very logical, and most of the elements mirror entry construction (e.g. screenshot comes after icon). I don't see anything that stands out as either misplaced or disorganized.

So not sure what other changes are necessary to group into this batch of changes I suggested. Maybe it's just the one.
I am considering two things:

1. General order: "All Mandatory then all optional" vs "Mirror the entry view and visually distinguish the mandatory ones". Both have pros/cons.

2. Better space usage, less scrolling. For example, many fields don't need to be full width, many field elements can be fitted without sacrificing clarity.

I may whip up something to show what I mean.
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#8 Post by Midas » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:35 am

vevy wrote:I may whip up something to show what I mean.

Please do -- it'll make this discussion a lot more productive, IMHO... :thumbsup:

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#9 Post by vevy » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 am

This is one possible rearrangement, to put much of the fields in one page.

The "?" are hover texts for information about the field.
Blue-green = optional

A few fields, like use cases, keywords, path portablility, unicode, alternatives, stealth, I felt to better leave them to one scroll down.
Tbh I forgot about additional categories, but the mock-up is less than 800*800. I tried to be conservative with space assumptions so I think you can fit more.
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#10 Post by Midas » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:29 am

As I noted earlier, although the design you propose would look more compact on a desktop PC screen, it would be an absolute mess on any portable device vertically oriented display, higher resolution or not... :neutral_face:

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#11 Post by vevy » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:43 am

I am aware. Responsive web design is our friend.
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#12 Post by Andrew Lee » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:16 pm

As you may be aware, I am an absolute mess what it comes to frontend design. Last facelift was done by tproli way back.

If you guys want any design changes, you'd have to send me the full template (responsive or not).

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#13 Post by vevy » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:24 pm

I don't know enough to make a good one, so we'll have to see if someone capable volunteers.
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Re: [Edit page] Move release date field next to version field

#14 Post by bitcoin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:06 pm

looks ok to me the way it is fwiw

what bothers me is some older entries dont have any info in latest release date field

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Re: [Edit page] Move release date field next to version field

#15 Post by vevy » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:01 pm

bitcoin wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:06 pm
looks ok to me the way it is fwiw
The main problem for me is that It requires too much scrolling, and the order could be better.

Can you elaborate? Do you like the one-per-row design or what exactly?
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