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Re: FileZillaSecure

#16 Post by fzss » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:14 pm

Hi, I'm one of the Filezilla Secure devs.
smaragdus wrote: It seems that FileZillaSecure does not respect FileZilla portability settings- it always writes to AppData (C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\FileZillaSecure)- sloppy work, I will not test this program any more.
Can you tell me exactly what Filezilla Secure is doing that Filezilla doesn't?
smaragdus wrote: Probably the developer intended to get some donations by cheating the users that the Windows XP version is still in development. I think that it is no coincidence that the latest FileZillaSecure version is the last FileZilla version which supports Windows XP- 3.18.0.0. This looks like a fraud. I am sorry I posted about FileZillaSecure.
FileZillaSecure 3.18.0.0 does not run in a XP vm for me. I don't know when Filezilla dropped XP support but according to a post above:
JohnTHaller wrote:FileZilla 3.9.0.2 fully drops Windows XP support and won't run. I've updated the entry and added a link to the older and unsupported 3.9.0.1 build for Windows XP users.
We will release a Filezilla Secure version of 3.9.0.1 or whatever the newest version that works with XP is if there is enough demand for it.

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Re: FileZillaSecure

#17 Post by webfork » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:09 pm

fzss wrote:Hi, I'm one of the Filezilla Secure devs.
Hi and welcome to the forum.
fzss wrote:
smaragdus wrote:It seems that FileZillaSecure does not respect FileZilla portability settings
Can you tell me exactly what Filezilla Secure is doing that Filezilla doesn't?
FileZilla has a functionality available that lets you use an XML file to handle where settings are stored (described in the extract process here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=9) I have not tested this but I suspect what smaragdus is saying is that functionality isn't available in FileZillaSecure. As such it's settings don't travel with the program, which is our main objective on this site.

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Re: FileZilla - a bug

#18 Post by smaragdus » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:47 pm

I think that there must be a bug in FileZilla versions 3.23.0.0 and 3.23.0.1 which affects portability, these versions write to AppData (C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\FileZilla)- theme files (.PNG) are extracted there. I suppose that the bug has something to do with this change in version 3.23.0-rc1 (2016-11-28):
New high-resolution icons
For me the last version of FileZilla that really works in portable mode is 3.22.2.2. I will appreciate a confirmation of this problem.

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Re: FileZilla entry

#19 Post by joby_toss » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:42 pm

Tested FileZilla_3.23.0.1_win64.zip on win10x64.

-downloaded .zip file and extract
-created settings sub-folder
-renamed fzdefaults.xml.example file from docs sub-folder to fzdefaults.xml
-edit fzdefaults.xml so the string $SOMEDIR/filezilla/ from Config Location line now reads settings
-moved fzdefaults.xml from docs up one level (same as filezilla.exe)
-run filezilla.exe

Result: config files are saved in settings sub-folder, but the icons cache is still created in AppData.

Verdict: portable, not stealth (I'm sure it will be fixed in future versions).

Note: quote from the fzdefaults.xml file:
Kiosk mode

If the "Kiosk mode" setting is set to 1, FileZilla will not write any
passwords to disk. If set to 2, FileZilla will not write to any
configuration file. The latter is useful if FileZilla gets executed from
read-only media.

Disable update check

If the "Disable update check" setting is set to 1, the capability to
check for new FileZilla versions will be completely disabled.

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Re: FileZilla

#20 Post by smaragdus » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:17 am

@joby_toss
Thank you for the confirmation. This problem seems to happen for the first time (I use FileZilla since version 3.4.0.0 from 2011.05.09).
Verdict: portable, not stealth (I'm sure it
will be fixed in future versions).
I hope so.

Edit
The developer (Tim Kosse) responded that:
This is intentional and not a bug.

From the NEWS file:
Speed up icon scaling and cache scaled icons for faster subsequent loading. The cache directory can be changed through fzdefaults.xml using the "Cache directory" setting
I failed to use "Cache directory" setting. Since this is not a bug I think that FileZilla database entry needs to be updated. I do not like this change at all.

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My forum rank at FileZilla Forum - 500 Command not understood:
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seems right.

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Edit
I wasted more than an hour struggling with the latest versions of FileZilla, I think I will keep to version 3.22.2.2, at least for the time being.

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Re: FileZilla entry

#21 Post by billon » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:44 am

3.23.0.2 (2016-12-06)

Bugfixes and minor changes:

...
  • Allow relative paths and environment variables in the "Cache directory" setting.
Fixed?
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Re: FileZilla entry

#22 Post by joby_toss » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:55 am

Yes, it is! Thank you, Mr. Tim Kosse!

@smaragdus: Thank's for bringing this to developer's attention!

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Re: FileZilla entry

#23 Post by giulia » Sun May 14, 2017 11:10 pm

hi
it creates a folder with several png files in c:\Users\User\AppData\Local\FileZilla\
at least under w7

thanks

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Re: FileZilla cache directory

#24 Post by smaragdus » Fri May 26, 2017 10:37 pm

@giulia
giulia wrote:hi
it creates a folder with several png files in c:\Users\User\AppData\Local\FileZilla\
at least under w7

thanks
For more information see the comments above and this forum thread.

For example if you would like to have the cache folder inside FileZilla folder open fzdefaults.xml and change this string:

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<Setting name="Cache directory">$USERPROFILE/Documents</Setting>
to

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<Setting name="Cache directory">cache</Setting>
Then the scaled icons would be stored in \FileZilla\cache.

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Re: FileZilla cache directory

#25 Post by giulia » Sat May 27, 2017 10:30 pm

smaragdus wrote:@giulia
giulia wrote:hi
it creates a folder with several png files in c:\Users\User\AppData\Local\FileZilla\
at least under w7

thanks
For more information see the comments above and this forum thread.

For example if you would like to have the cache folder inside FileZilla folder open fzdefaults.xml and change this string:

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<Setting name="Cache directory">$USERPROFILE/Documents</Setting>
to

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<Setting name="Cache directory">cache</Setting>
Then the scaled icons would be stored in \FileZilla\cache.
hi smaragdus
thank you !
i have to add the

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<Setting name="Cache directory">cache</Setting>
because my preferences don't include

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<Setting name="Cache directory">$USERPROFILE/Documents</Setting>

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Re: FileZilla Pro

#26 Post by smaragdus » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:29 pm

There is a paid version of FileZilla - FileZilla Pro, which supports Amazon S3 and costs 8,88 €/9,95 $:

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The installers offered for download at FileZilla web-site (https://filezilla-project.org/) are bundled, better get it from SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/files/).

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Re: FileZilla entry

#27 Post by JanisS » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:41 pm

That's a true problem. So for important accounts, just do not use use such software in case of malware. I use lastPass for simple password remembering.

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Re: FileZilla entry

#28 Post by JohnTHaller » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:41 am

Also worth noting that the website switches the position of FileZilla and FileZilla Pro in the above image between downloads seemingly at random. So when you go to upgrade there's a good chance it's on the left rather than the right like it was the last time you downloaded or vice versa.
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Re: FileZilla Pro

#29 Post by webfork » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:51 am

smaragdus wrote:There is a paid version of FileZilla - FileZilla Pro, which supports Amazon S3 and costs 8,88 €/9,95 $:
As you noted with Snipaste developing a "pro" version, this is unfortunate but, given that Filezilla has a boatload of great features, lacking AmazonS3 certainly doesn't make it crippleware.

Also I remember a time before Filezilla when anything but basic FTP was something you had to pay for. So part of me wants to give them a little more room to fund the project on this where I might be less forgiving elsewhere.
smaragdus wrote:The installers offered for download at FileZilla web-site (https://filezilla-project.org/) are bundled, better get it from SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/files/).
I'm actually okay with projects that provide a bundled version so long as a non-bundled version is also available. So for example, I'd be happy to support developers by getting a copy of some popular program I'm probably going to end up installing anyway (like Chrome or Acrobat). However, in this case it's not totally obvious and what's bundled with the program is unexplained, which makes me worry they're throwing in some garbage like OpenCandy or it's variants.

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