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Application name: Starter

Website: http://members.lycos.co.uk/codestuff/pr ... arter.html

Date tested: 2006-05-13

Status: Not portable

Reason: Writes settings to registry.

http://codestuff.obninsk.ru/products_starter.html
Can anyone test for portability.... Again?

Portable, if you create file Starter.ini inside program folder before first launch.

Starter is in the database at http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=448

xor wrote:Can anyone test for portability.... Again?

It’s easily the best program of it’s kind that I've tested, though getting a little old with no listing for anything above Vista.

It is a pity that Starter hasn't been updated for so long and very likely it is abandoned for good but surprisingly it still works just fine on Windows 8 x64 which proves that well-written software ages slower.

@Moderators
Since Starter is portable I suggest this thread to be moved to the Portable Freeware Submission sub-forum.

smaragdus wrote:Since Starter is portable I suggest this thread to be moved

Done. Not sure how I missed that.

@webfork
Thanks.

Works fine under my windows 8.1 64bits. Just to let you know... because...
Advertised here to work till win 7 and where I download it (http://codestuff.obninsk.ru/) it said till win vista but as you all said it is an old software (17.05.2009 - Starter v5.6.2.9)
Like it. Moved it to my work thumbdrive.

I can't get Starter to show me installed 64 bit apps in startup on my win7x64...

joby_toss wrote:I can't get Starter to show me installed 64 bit apps in startup on my win7x64...

Must be an option... somewhere, it does show some startup 64bit software on my PC but I did not modify any options. I cannot see any options related to 64Bits apps. I guess it is inside the code you could have an answer...

Example:

WhatInStartup 64 bit


Starter


Note: WhatInStartup 32 bit also fails in displaying installed 64 bit apps, same as Starter.
Sysinternals Autoruns works fine, but this one shows absolutely everything anyway. It has only one drawback: it can't be used to ADD entries.

joby_toss wrote:Example:

WhatInStartup 64 bit

Ah, right. Your screenshot explains why it happens.

"Startup Type" of RTHDVCPL is "Registry - Machine Run". In other words, the program starts because it is in the "automatically started programs" list in Windows registry. ("Machine Run", in particular, means HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run.)

The problem is registry redirection, which is part of WoW64. When a 32-bit program tries to obtain a list of automatically starting programs, it actually accesses HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run, without knowing it. The WOW6432Node copy of CurrentVersion\Run, in turn, only contains programs that themselves were added by 32-bit programs (which were redirected when they tried to write to CurrentVersion\Run), i.e. 32-bit installers. In other words, a 32-bit "automatically starting programs" application can only show programs which were installed with 32-bit installers, which of course are nearly always 32-bit programs.

SYSTEM wrote: Ah, right. Your screenshot explains why it happens.

"Startup Type" of RTHDVCPL is "Registry - Machine Run". In other words, the program starts because it is in the "automatically started programs" list in Windows registry. ("Machine Run", in particular, means HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run.)

The problem is registry redirection, which is part of WoW64. When a 32-bit program tries to obtain a list of automatically starting programs, it actually accesses HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run, without knowing it. The WOW6432Node copy of CurrentVersion\Run, in turn, only contains programs that themselves were added by 32-bit programs (which were redirected when they tried to write to CurrentVersion\Run), i.e. 32-bit installers. In other words, a 32-bit "automatically starting programs" application can only show programs which were installed with 32-bit installers, which of course are nearly always 32-bit programs.

I should have know that one, shame on me. But was close as I said the answer was in the code. Thanks System for this information.