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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#166 Post by joby_toss » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:43 am

I'd like to see you go on using the official version, but if you decide to switch, just don't use the version from gora (nothing against the guy, just don't like his license braking... although it seems to be just a defense mechanism).

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#167 Post by Lupo73 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:00 am

joby_toss wrote:I'd like to see you go on using the official version, but if you decide to switch, just don't use the version from gora (nothing against the guy, just don't like his license braking... although it seems to be just a defense mechanism).
Ok, so what about the other unofficial version 1.6.5? It seems to be a good minor improvement of the original one, with some new converters too.
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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#168 Post by guinness » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:50 am

I agree with joby_toss.
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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#169 Post by joby_toss » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:22 am

Lupo73 wrote:Ok, so what about the other unofficial version 1.6.5? It seems to be a good minor improvement of the original one, with some new converters too.
I see no problem here if the source code is available.

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#170 Post by Midas » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:38 pm

My vote is for forking Gora's...

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#171 Post by Userfriendly » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:17 pm

Gora seemed to put the most effort to update and tweak UniExtract so naturally I would want his fork to be used as a base. Unfortunately, there's no source code for it.

The next best thing is SevenOptimus fork from the msfn forum I suppose. Do use that if it has some good useful tweaks to it.

Otherwise, the original source should be used if you got your own ideas on how to improve it.

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#172 Post by smallhagrid » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 pm

To me the choice of version seems obvious from a few simple facts easily observed;
1. Gora's version sets off NOD32 without fail - FP or not;
2. SevenOptimus made his in such a way as to not set off any AV warning at all;
3. SevenOptimus made other small improvements/additions.

Personally speaking:
SevenOptimus used to post at another board I visit regularly and was always genuinely friendly & helpful, whereas Gora (also a member & poster there) was outright nasty when asked about UE.

I presently use the SevenOptimus version and prefer it.

Thanks for keeping this topic alive and Best Wishes.

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#173 Post by KJD » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:18 pm

Lupo

There were several "forks" of Nitro322 (Jared) / Amritius's Universal Extractor
note that Gora was very helpful much of the time towards Jared's final 1.6.1 release

1.6.5 aka 1.7 by Amrit / SevenOptimus was modified in the spirit of the one on legroom ("Open" au3 source)

Gora (& Ricktendo continued up to 1.7.9.95Y) and LonerD (up to DreamLair 2.1.1)
a.f.a.i.k. they seemed to enter a clone war (? why Gora withdrew further changes) both did not generally make their code changes openly obvious, however their "bin" changes were normally visible to the public.

Although the SevenOptimus code is NOT currently available on his site, I would suggest downloading his last public domain version from http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?app ... h_id=38515 and add the latest updates to that.
Though you may wish to note that Amrit suggested he intended releasing a version 1.8.

Beware the number of requests for correction and expansion (especially InstallShield variants) which could involve more time than the other dev's above mentioned seem to now have time for ?

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#174 Post by Lupo73 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:49 am

I agree to limit the choice to the open source releases.
I'd like to try the last version of SevenOptimus, has someone a copy of it? KJD, I'm not able to access to your link (it is for registered users only). :)
Maybe could someone also contact him to know about the next release under development?
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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#175 Post by I am Baas » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:54 am

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#176 Post by Midas » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:44 am

KJD wrote:Gora (& Ricktendo continued up to 1.7.9.95Y) and LonerD (up to DreamLair 2.1.1)
a.f.a.i.k. they seemed to enter a clone war (? why Gora withdrew further changes) both did not generally make their code changes openly obvious, however their "bin" changes were normally visible to the public.
  • Please excuse the layman's question, but since they're made with AHK, aren't those easy to reverse/decompile? Just for the sake of auditing code changes...

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#177 Post by guinness » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:11 am

AHK != AutoIt. AutoIt is not easy to decompile these days and it's something I wouldn't advocate either. It's just purely unethical, regardless of whether the developer is breaking the agreement of GPLv3 or not.
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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#178 Post by KJD » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:21 am

Midas

Reversing others works is a plagerism topic that we all like to avoid (thus the main issues between Gora and others leading to him to use obscuration) it is much simpler to fork forwards from last PD version with a public "open" discussion on prefered "enhancements" especially as some of those by others were contentious.

As an example the core dependance on Marc0's TrID has caused many problems since he is not prepared to change his defs to suit versioning (last time I asked). It is easy enough to mod TrIDDefs.TRD hence the variations in behaviour but everone has their own idea as to what should be included/excluded.

Lupo I will try to PM you with SevenOptimus code/contact

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#179 Post by Userfriendly » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:03 am

I uploaded Amritius/SevenOptimus(MSFN) Universal Extractor v1.7 Installer with AutoIt Source.
http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/hCN7ss6q/file.html

Download links on his website seems to be dead so luckily I had a copy archived.

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Re: Keeping UniExtract up to date

#180 Post by KJD » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:40 am

Just to confirm that Userfriendly uploaded
UniExtract17.EXE version 2014-07-09 07:58:13 by Jared Breland and Amritius (SevenOptimus)
Check MD5 = d50a3d9ca75470edf066cdc27cbaccfe
Ignore Virus Total Detection ratio: of 2 / 57 =Reputation.1 & PWStealer.1!Generic (usually Aspack v2.12)

This issue of UE always triggering AV software could be avoided by allowing "optional" component downloads for items such as Aspack ONLY IF UE thinks its required

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