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Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:56 am
by webfork
So I'm having some trouble with site update in regards to BBCODE's new indent system

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TEXT AND TAGS:

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[indent]This only works on one line
the second line isn't indented even though the object isn't closed yet[/indent]

[list]
This works better but the first item is
always bulleted and not the second
[/list]
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(UGLY) RESULT:

This only works on one line
the second line isn't indented even though the object isn't closed yet

  • This works better but the first item is
    always bulleted and not the second
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I spent a huge amount of time getting longer posts formatted correctly and now many of them are broken. That often both affects readability and the logic behind the process (steps are less clear when it's not clear if they're part of the main list or a sub-set). I'm tempted just to post links to external documents.

Anyone know of a workaround?

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:28 pm
by billon

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[list]
[*]This works better but the first item is
[*]always bulleted and not the second
[/list]
  • This works better but the first item is
  • always bulleted and not the second
:?:

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:25 pm
by Midas
I have exactly the same problem. I have been correcting my past posts to clean the LIST tag I had been using for indentation, but I'm not really comfortable with the text processing limitations of the new BBCODE version.

A paragraph spanning INDENT tag would be perfect for me.

BBCODE current quirks

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:00 am
by __philippe
And speaking of current BBCODE quirks,
why does phpBB stubbornly and needlessly insist on duplicating quote marks, as in :
some quoted text
while a lone quote whould be (ahem...) "quote" enough ? :roll:

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:32 am
by Specular
webfork wrote: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:56 amSo I'm having some trouble with site update in regards to BBCODE's new indent system
For some reason the indent on this site just inserts some span element with whitespace characters (on one line) rather than wrapping the block of text in an element that could be then styled to have a whole left-side margin. I'm not sure what controls it (BBCode panel editor in the admin control panel?) but if that were changed to wrap text in an element instead you could get what you're after.
__philippe wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:00 am And speaking of current BBCODE quirks,
why does phpBB stubbornly and needlessly insist on duplicating quote marks, as in :
some quoted text
while a lone quote whould be (ahem...) "quote" enough ? :roll:
This is a simple fix in the stylesheet. See attached replacement icons.css within the zip.
Andrew Lee wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:49 pm.
Quoting from random thread so you get a notification and could maybe add the replacement stylesheet :)

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:26 am
by Andrew Lee
"icon.css" has been replaced. The spurious quotes are now gone.

I have also fixed the "indent" code with:

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<div style="margin-left: 3em;">{TEXT}</div>
Idea is from here.

Looks better now!

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:18 am
by __philippe
@Andrew
Colour me dense, but...
I still see TWO stacked (albeit dissimilar) quotes symbols,

...when a single one would be perfectly adequate...deferring to __phil's "least resource expenditure" principle...;-)

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:45 am
by Specular
Thanks, Andrew!
__philippe wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:18 am @Andrew
Colour me dense, but... I still see TWO stacked (albeit dissimilar) quotes symbols,
...when a single one would be perfectly adequate...deferring to __phil's "least resource expenditure" principle...;-)
This is due to the browser loading the old stylesheet from the cache. Check this page to find the hotkey for your browser to force refreshing the site content. In Firefox I use Ctrl+Shift+R.

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:52 am
by __philippe
Well, I never... :shock:

Hats off to Specular for pinpointing the cached stylesheet :idea: mischievous shenanigans,
and to Andrew for wiping out the spurious quote in the first place...! 8)

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:55 pm
by shnbwmn
Looks much better now 8)

Re: List(s) BBCODE malfunction

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:41 pm
by __philippe
Bulleted-List and Numbered-List BBCODE malfunction

As noted earlier by fellow TPFC members, one remaining BBCODE snag needs fixing:

It would be much convenient if the "Bulleted-List" and "Numbered list" BBCODE could be cajoled into working as expected, namely:

Simply wrapping the following sample block of lines

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line item a
line item b
line item c
within the "Bulleted-List" BBCODE should yield

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• line item a
• line item b
• line item c
With the current code, only the first line item gets bulleted; as a clumsy workaround, one need to manually prefix every line
(but the first one) with [*] to achieve the expected formatting

Likewise,
simply wrapping the sample block within the "Numbered-List" BBCODE
should produce, without further ado:

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1 line item a
2 line item b
3 line item c

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:42 pm
by SYSTEM
@__philippe: That's how BBCode is supposed to work. Requiring [​*] allows a list item to span multiple lines, and it wouldn't be possible after the change you suggest.

Re: Indentation in BBCODE

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:45 am
by __philippe
@SYSTEM
Thanks for the clarification.

And yet... :wink:

I still find the local BBCODE usage to display "List-bulleted / List-numbered" items needlessly counter-intuitive,
compared to simpler implementations found in other kindred phpBB bulletin boards/conferencing systems,
never mind in staple text editors/notepads (such as: Qjot / Wordpad / Jovial...)

Ah well...can't please everyone everytime, can you?... :roll: