Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#16 Post by JohnTHaller » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:29 pm

I am Baas wrote:This only happens when I run the application sandboxed.
That message occurs when a launcher didn't close properly. We see it most often outside of sandboxes when a whole PC crashes or Windows shuts down and crashes the apps that are still running but not Windows shutdown-aware. So, the presence of that message on next run would indicate that the launcher wasn't able to clean up the cache file and then close as it would like to. Are you exiting the app and letting the sandbox close on its own or closing the sandbox directly somehow? I did a run of Process Hacker (sans admin) in Sandboxie's DefaultBox and didn't see this issue.
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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#17 Post by abc » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:30 pm

Napiophelios wrote:I personally only want to see two options
option #1: Is it Stealth? YES.
option #2: Is it Stealth? No. It leave several empty folders in the user profile directory...etc.

There should be no simple "no" entries at all.
If you are answering the question you should be able to state specifics as to what is left behind.
This. The Stealth entry should not be optional and should be less ambiguous.

'Daphne' doesn't even have a "Stealth" entry listed.
http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2316

So it stealth or not?

Perhaps a 3rd choice should be presented
option 3: Is it Stealth? I don't know. I didn't properly test this app and everything else that was written should be called into question.

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#18 Post by guinness » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:52 pm

People shouldn't be submitting apps if they intend to choose that option 3. It's unnecessarily bloating the database with potentially non-Portable applications. There are many articles on TPFC of how to test for Portability of an application.

How to test >> http://www.portablefreeware.com/forums/ ... 751#p21751

Actually my setup is still the same 3 years on.
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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#19 Post by joby_toss » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:50 pm

abc wrote:So it stealth or not?
Yes. Entry updated.
abc wrote:Perhaps a 3rd choice should be presented
option 3: Is it Stealth? I don't know. I didn't properly test this app and everything else that was written should be called into question.
I wondered if someone appreciates our efforts! Glad to read this!

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#20 Post by Magibon » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:42 am

IMO,

there should only be "Yes" or "No".
it's as simple as that.

What separates this site from others, is "Stealth".

there are tons of freeware collection sites.. but i keep coming here because of "Stealth".

if you're going to post, you must do the work!

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#21 Post by abc » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:19 am

joby_toss wrote:
abc wrote:So it stealth or not?
Yes. Entry updated.
abc wrote:Perhaps a 3rd choice should be presented
option 3: Is it Stealth? I don't know. I didn't properly test this app and everything else that was written should be called into question.
I wondered if someone appreciates our efforts! Glad to read this!
Was not intended as personal attack, more of a rant. :oops:

Yes, 'yours' and others efforts are very much appreciated, thanks.

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#22 Post by abc » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:28 am

guinness wrote:There are many articles on TPFC of how to test for Portability of an application.

How to test >> http://www.portablefreeware.com/forums/ ... 751#p21751
Good link. Some techniques I already knew of.. Interesting to see what others do.

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#23 Post by joby_toss » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:37 am

abc wrote:Was not intended as personal attack, more of a rant.
No problems, don't worry! :)

I need help in finding all the applications that don't have a STEALTH status!

@Andrew: any way to make a list of those?
I'm sorry to say that I don't have the time to find those apps, but I'll try to find the stealth status for them gradually, from a list...

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#24 Post by guinness » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:59 am

I'm all for option 2 if there is no option 1 equivalent and even these days I'm a little less strict with my portable program usage.
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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#25 Post by Andrew Lee » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:26 pm

@Andrew: any way to make a list of those?
Just added an additional field "stealth" to the CSV dump from:

http://www.portablefreeware.com/dump.php

Valid values are "Y", "N" and "" (don't know, which is pretty much the proposed option 3, isn't it?)

It should be pretty straightforward to use a spreadsheet app to sort by the "Stealth" field to find what you are looking for.

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Re: Clarifiying Stealth: Yes, No, and a 3rd option

#26 Post by joby_toss » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:00 am

Thank you!

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