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Re: TPFC Database

#46 Post by bitcoin » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:48 pm

webfork wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:52 pm
Second: billon does a lot of hard work here on entries and we appreciate his effort. That takes a lot of time and energy so if he takes entry status seriously, I certainly understand.
agree

thanks for the few people who do about 99% of the work on here - Webfork, Billon and i think System

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Re: TPFC Database

#47 Post by webfork » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:04 pm

bitcoin wrote:
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thanks for the few people who do about 99% of the work on here - Webfork, Billon and i think System
I'd say it's a lot of people putting in a lot of work over a lot of years -- there's a lot of credit (and blame) to go around :) Over the billon in particular has put in a ton of work over the last few years to keep database up-to-date and active, which is is huge as its kind of the pulse of the site. Just because of my schedule, it's not something I could take over from him.

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Re: TPFC Database

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Re: TPFC Database

#49 Post by webfork » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 pm

billon wrote:
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nobody cares anyway
User has been contacted.

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Re: TPFC Database

#50 Post by Andrew Lee » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:59 am

webfork has suggested in a PM to add something that would remind the user to post to the forum after adding an entry. Actually, his exact words were:
Something like 'please post in forums before submitting a program to the database' that a user has to click through to get to the Add view?' It might help.
But I think it makes more sense to post to the forum after adding an entry, instead of before, because then you wouldn't have the link to the entry, so you have to make a dummy post first, post an entry, then come back and edit the dummy post, which is all kind of messy.

I am thinking maybe add a bold red reminder near the "Submit" button to post to the "Submissions" forum (with a hyperlink to it). IMHO, that should be the best place to place the message.

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Re: TPFC Database

#51 Post by SYSTEM » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:44 am

Andrew Lee wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:59 am
webfork has suggested in a PM to add something that would remind the user to post to the forum after adding an entry. Actually, his exact words were:
Something like 'please post in forums before submitting a program to the database' that a user has to click through to get to the Add view?' It might help.
But I think it makes more sense to post to the forum after adding an entry, instead of before, because then you wouldn't have the link to the entry, so you have to make a dummy post first, post an entry, then come back and edit the dummy post, which is all kind of messy.

I am thinking maybe add a bold red reminder near the "Submit" button to post to the "Submissions" forum (with a hyperlink to it). IMHO, that should be the best place to place the message.

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How about showing an alert instead when the entry has been created? Showing the message right after creating the entry would be even more effective.
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Re: TPFC Database

#52 Post by Midas » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:26 am

Any way to raise awareness of our local customs while streamlining the submission/editing process is OK with me.

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Re: TPFC Database

#53 Post by Andrew Lee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:48 am

How about showing an alert instead when the entry has been created? Showing the message right after creating the entry would be even more effective.
Good idea! Lemme work on that...

Update: All done. You can take a look at the wordings here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/postadd.php?id=2869

Will be shown after the user has added a new entry.

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Re: TPFC Database

#54 Post by webfork » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:28 pm

Andrew Lee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:48 am
How about showing an alert instead when the entry has been created? Showing the message right after creating the entry would be even more effective.
Good idea! Lemme work on that...

Update: All done. You can take a look at the wordings here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/postadd.php?id=2869

Will be shown after the user has added a new entry.
Looks great, thanks for that

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Re: TPFC Database

#55 Post by Midas » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 pm

If it is made a centered box, with narrower column width, it will greatly improve readability... and results. ;)

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Re: TPFC Database

#56 Post by Andrew Lee » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Midas wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 pm
If it is made a centered box, with narrower column width, it will greatly improve readability... and results. ;)
Not really clear about what you mean.. could you elaborate, maybe with a screen mockup? Thanks!

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Re: TPFC Database

#57 Post by Midas » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:41 am

Easily. Here:

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The display shows the minimum width allowed if you shrink the browser window; I find that's still overly broad. Online notices (or any lengthy piece of text online, for that matter) should be no larger than a regular newspaper column, i.e., something closer to the dimensions of the site sidebar -- or so sayeth the experts... :)

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Re: TPFC Database

#58 Post by webfork » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Andrew Lee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:48 am
Update: All done. You can take a look at the wordings here: https://www.portablefreeware.com/postadd.php?id=2869

Will be shown after the user has added a new entry.
One additional request here: after the screen shows up, having the named link point to the entry would be ideal. Right now clicking on the link just goes back to the "postadd" page. In other words, I just added MusicBee to the database, but I couldn't get to the entry by clicking on the MusicBee hyperlink at the top.

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Re: TPFC Database

#59 Post by Andrew Lee » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:47 am

The display shows the minimum width allowed if you shrink the browser window; I find that's still overly broad. Online notices should be no larger than a regular newspaper column, i.e., something closer to the dimensions of the site sidebar -- or so sayeth the experts...
@tproli: if you are reading this, could you help me out here? While the request sounds rather easy to implement, it is surprisingly difficult for a backend guy like myself!

A little background: tproli was the member who upgraded the previous clunky design of this website with his CSS wizardry a few years back. So no more tables and hardcoded display attributes, everything is marked up by CSS classes.

While I could probably brute-force my way through on this, I have a feeling it will break tproli's design intent in a major way. So I would really like tproli's comment on this before I proceed. Thanks!
One additional request here: after the screen shows up, having the named link point to the entry would be ideal. Right now clicking on the link just goes back to the "postadd" page. In other words, I just added MusicBee to the database, but I couldn't get to the entry by clicking on the MusicBee hyperlink at the top.
Thanks for spotting this. It should be classified as a bug, which I have fixed.

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Re: TPFC Database

#60 Post by Midas » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:02 am

It just a minor improvement; I, for one, can live with it as it is. :)

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