webfork wrote:I don't know if you intended it here, but I need you to get away from the accusatory thing.
I'm really sorry if anyone should take it like that. All I did was ask a question and John could have simply replied “No. I wasn’t aware that 64-bit users wouldn’t be able to use 32-bit plugins”
or whatever is the case.
JohnTHaller wrote:Which is exactly what I offered above, since this is the first time anyone has brought up the issue with 32-bit plugins in VirtualDub.
Don’t get me wrong. I am
glad that you offered but I also think no one ever raised the matter because previous users were none the wiser.
JohnTHaller wrote:Most VirtualDub Portable users are fine with the set of plugins we make available as they include both the 32-bit versions and 64-bit versions in the download pack and cover all the standard formats most users seem to want.
That sounds like you are referring to this Plugins Pack: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portab ... e?download
. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. That Plugin Pack is another matter. What I meant was many plugins are available only in 32-bit - there are no 64-bit versions. For example...
Histogram Equalization (http://rationalqm.us/histogram.html
Unsharp Mask (http://neuron2.net/unsharp/unsharp.html
MSU Denoiser (http://compression.ru/video/denoising/index_en.html
There are no 64-bit versions of these plugins and it is the same with many others. As you so aptly put it ”...there are tons of 32-bit plugins without 64-bit counterparts...”
JohnTHaller wrote:Most users don't seem to use plugins from other locations, so this hadn't come up before.
Hopefully we are talking about the same thing here. Nevertheless, have you considered that many users may not even be aware that if they were able to use VirtualDub 32-bit then much more plugins would be available to them? That they may be able to do what they couldn't before? My own thought is users should be made aware of the facts so that they can make an informed decision. With that in mind, I believe displaying a prominent notice on the VirtualDub page would be most helpful to potential users.
Sorry to have taken so much time to respond but I went to the trouble of running some tests. I created a simple set of processing settings and saved it. I then loaded these settings on both the 32-bit and 64-bit of VirtualDub in turn and tested an 8 minutes video clip. I was shocked to find that the 64-bit version actually took around 11% more time! I couldn’t believe it so I ran two more tests on different video clips and both times the 64-bit version took between 11% and 13% longer. Whether or not it is generally true for 64-bit applications to outperform their 32-bit counterparts, it certainly isn’t the case here. Try it yourself and see.