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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.7.1521 Beta
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:12 am 
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smaragdus wrote:
What is good about WavPack? Its low compression ratio beaten even by the mediocre FLAC?

    High compression isn't the my deciding factor for lossless audio. And I used to be a fan of FLAC for lossless audio until someone pointed me to a set of technical shortcomings I'm unable to fairly reproduce now.

    WavPack happens to be in the recommended list by HydrogenAudio, my goto reference for everything related to high quality digital audio.

    Speed and the fact that it alies lossy with non-lossy options are major pluses for me. Would you care to share your reasons to dismiss it, BTW? :?


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 Post subject: Re: WavPack
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:08 am 
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@Midas

No, I do not dismiss WavPack, I appreciate it is actively developed. It is just that for me the compression ratio is more important than the compression speed because compression results are permanent while I do not care that much about the process of compressing. Even small differences in size begin to matter when one has terabytes of audio. In fact my results are similar to the comparison table you mentioned with one exception- in my tests TAK beats APE by a narrow margin. My test results according to compression ratio:

  • 1. OFR (OptimFROG)
  • 2. TAK (Tom's lossless Audio Kompressor)
  • 3. APE (Monkey's Audio)
  • 4. LA (Lossless Audio)
  • 5. TTA (The True Audio)
  • 6. FLAC (FLAC)
  • 7. WV (WavPack)
  • 8. M4A (ALAC - Apple Lossless Audio Codec)

My personal favourites- Monkey's Audio and OptimFROG. Since I do not care for lossy compression I do not care for hybrid mode either. In fact I have WV files in my audio collection- several torrents in WavPack format.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.7.1521 Beta
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:25 pm 
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smaragdus wrote:
Resonic is now nag-ware:
I could not find the new "Nag" feature in the change log. For me Resonic is a hopeless player and the new "Nag" features puts an end to my tests.

It shows once per update and has been around for a few versions. And you keep coming back to this thread for every single new release hating on a 'hopeless' player.

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Being one of the best non-lossy formats, improvements for WavPack processing are highly welcome. Great job! 8)

+1. One of the few excellent formats that successfully go beyond consumer audio imho, great for 32-bit float and many in-between formats! Also keeps the wav structure untouched.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:55 am 
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Quick note: Resonic Player versions feature comparison matrix is now available at https://resonic.at/product-comparison...


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:01 pm 
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It shows once per update and has been around for a few versions. And you keep coming back to this thread for every single new release hating on a 'hopeless' player.
I am interested in audio players and that is why I have been wasting my time with this piece of junk since 2012.12.27 (Resonic Alpha 513) but I will do it no more because I think that this player is hopeless and because I do not tolerate beggars and naggers. If you think that this thread is yours because you started it you are wrong. Yet if you think that my comments violate the rules of this site- go complain to the moderators or to the owner of this site. You say that I "...keep coming back to this thread for every single new release...", which is a lie- I have commented on versions 0.8.0.1302, 0.8.5.1483, 0.8.6.1505 and 3 versions cannot stand for "every single new release". In one of my posts I mentioned bugs, in another one I confirmed that the bugs I reported had been fixed and my other posts I expressed my astonishment that after more than 4 years of development there is no support for Cue sheets, a feature available in scores of audio player I have tested and used. I absolutely do not care about you and your posts. But if you think that you can tell me what I should post and what I shouldn't you are wrong. As you were wrong when you said that I hated your player- I simply cannot hate junk-ware, I dump it.

From your posts I presume that you are Thomas Wolf (two=Thomas Wolf), the developer of Resonic. You may feel happy now- I totally lost interest in your player and will never come back to this thread. I have respect for developers who release free software (by the way your player is not really free) but I have no respect for you because time and again you intend to silence me and to reduce my comments to "hate".

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I have seen that in the comments section at the database entry of Resonic you called a user who didn't like your player a troll:
https://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2390#comment28994


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am 
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Resonic 0.8.9b. https://resonic.at/whatsnew

Summary:
This release updates both Player and Pro, and introduces the first set of Pro features for batch
processing ('Batch Targets'), a what-you-hear recording feature (record button), it improves
the musical spectrum, adds metadata support for MIDI files, adds basic CART metadata support
for radio automation users, lets you start different copies (not instances) of Resonic
at the same time, and comes with many bug fixes.

New Features:
  • Pro: Batch Targets feature (batch processing.)
    Fixed copy/move/decode/convert target folders can be created in the new right sidebar
    (which can be toggled with F6, analogous to the left sidebar and F4) by dragging folders
    onto the 'Targets' tab.
    Each target can receive files and folders for whatever action is assigned to it.
    Additional conversion options are available through the right-click menu, ranging from
    simple copy/move to audio decoding (to .wav), sample format conversion (bit depth,
    sample rate, channel count).
    Targets are accessible from the (new) right sidebar (through F6, or the button in the status bar),
    which is shown by default on first start of a fresh installation.
    More features are to be added in future versions.
    See https://resonic.at/docs/bach-targets for more information.
  • Pro: Recording feature ('what you hear'.)
    Press the record button (transport bar) to record what is currently being played through Resonic,
    including pitch shifting, volume, seeking, live looping, and slice triggering via keyboard keys.
    Recorded audio is stored as .wav files in the 'Recorded Audio' folder in the Resonic user
    profile (in user 'Documents') which is also directly accessible through the browser.
    Click the status message after recording to start playing the file directly.
    This feature is intended to be used for sound design, creative idea finding, or as an audio sketch pad.
    To use recording you must use either a WASAPI or ASIO device for playback.
  • Pro: Musical spectrum and its note/octave estimation have been reduced to a more
    useful range of keys (C0..G8), bar scaling has been updated, bars are now colored
    by average intensity, and fading peak hold has been added.
  • Pro: Standard MIDI files are now fully integrated into the Resonic meta core,
    estimating MIDI file duration, reading copyright, timed markers with labels,
    musical key (first key signature change), track count (non-empty tracks),
    MIDI format (0, 1, or 2), pattern count (for format 2 files), PPQ, and tempo in BPM.
    If there are multiple tempo changes in a file an average tempo will be displayed
    in the file list, and the BPM will be put in brackets.
    As a special feature Resonic also displays the number of unique instrument patches
    used in the MIDI file in the 'Instrument Count' column.
  • Pro: Added 'Cropped Audio' to browser to quickly access this standard folder in the
    Resonic user profile (in user 'Documents'.)
  • Pro: Crop progress display in status bar,
    for both the "Crop selection" and the "Crop selection and play" feature.
  • Pro: Added right-click menu to A-B button for a few selection commands.
    Note that the Play, Stop, and Headphones buttons also have their own right-click menus.
  • Pro: The current mouse-selected region in the waveform is now automatically saved before
    it is modified or cleared, which means you won't accidentally lose the the region.
    The last region can be restored by right-clicking the A-B button, or through the marker
    button menu, using "Restore last selection."
    If a region already exists and a new one is created this feature toggles between
    the last one and the current one.
    This feature is also available as a global hotkey.
  • Pro: Much improved behavior of "Crop selection and play" feature (renders the selected
    waveform region to a new audio file and starts playing it):
    Before the new (cropped) file starts playing the selected waveform region is cleared,
    the current pitch settings (semitones/cents) are cleared, and the loop button
    is enabled (repeating the new file.)
    Note that the last selected region can now also be restored through the marker
    menu, or by right-clicking the A-B button ("Restore last selection".)
  • Pro: New global hotkey for "Loop on/off", which toggles single-file repeat.
  • Pro: AIFF metadata improvements, and reading comment chunks.
  • It is now possible to run different copies of Resonic Pro and Player at the same time
    as long as the database paths are different.
    You could for example start a portable Player, a portable Pro, another portable Pro,
    and a regularily installed Pro in parallel.
    Starting the same copy multiple times is not supported yet; it was removed
    during the Alpha to Beta rework for database stability reasons.
  • You can now CTRL-C the version information when the about dialog is open.
  • Headphones crossfeed presets (BS2B); right-click the headphones button
    to access them. (#1224)
  • New item in column popup menu to quickly hide the clicked column.
  • Pro: Metadata support for compressed AIFF files (.aifc).
  • Added indication of floating point files in bit depth column (using an 'f', e.g., "32f")
  • Pro: Additional metadata support for AES CART chunks.
    Available via columns: artist, title, category, cut id, client id, comment.
  • Pro: Metadata support for Scott Studios (SS32) Wave files, used in radio automation
    and broadcast systems.
    Available via columns: artist, title, cut id, comment.
    Available via waveform: intro end position, segue position.
    (requested: G. Zlot)
  • Pro: Segue (track transition in radio automation), intro markers, and other CART triggers
    are now read from CART/SS32 metadata and displayed in Resonic's waveform as a dashed line.
  • Pro: Addtional metadata support for BSI Wave files (Broadcast Software International),
    used in radio automation and broadcast systems.
    Available via columns: recording year, agency (as copyright), copyright / record label / publisher
    (as publisher), copy / notes (as subject), genre, music key, composer, album, tempo in bpm,
    and track number.
    Available via waveform: hook start position.
  • Pro: Added new broadcast columns "Cut Number ID" and "Client ID" (CART).
  • Essential fixes from the last Pro release were ported to Resonic Player.
  • Utility feature to resize main window to a fixed size, offering a selection of preset sizes,
    which assists in making videos or screenshots of a certain size.
    (see 'Menu | Advanced | Resize main window'.)

Improvements:
  • File list items appear faster when pasted (using the CTRL-V shortcut.)
  • Faster startup with bookmarks that point to mapped network drives, or network locations.
  • Folders can be moved and deleted more reliably as they are unlocked more intelligently
    when necessary, e.g., during drag and drop move in browser.
  • More detailed information in column popup menu.
    It's also easier to find the clicked column and its metadata group
    which both now appear in bold.
  • Opus decoder updated to libOpus 1.2.1 for reduced CPU usage during decoding.
    https://people.xiph.org/~jm/opus/opus-1.2/
  • MIDI renderer now more resilient in handling invalid XG sysex messages.
  • Some file list copy/paste improvements and fixes.

Corrections:
  • Pro: Playback of REX2 mono files.
  • Fixed taskbar quick controls (buttons) disappearing after a while on Windows 10.
  • Aborting a metadata scan in folders with lots of files could make one CPU core hang
    at a hundred percent usage.
  • Corrected several drag & drop related issues in the browser.
  • Pro: Fixed error message shown on every key press when ''Map temporary slices to letter keys''
    is enabled (for fast slice auditioning) and there are no temporary slices set.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:32 am 
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two wrote:


Thank you. Entry updated. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.7.1521 Beta
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:02 am 
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smaragdus wrote:
Resonic is now nag-ware

Part of catching up after a few weeks of being semi-offline.

Did this nag screen show up after some amount of use? I just grabbed it to confirm and I'm not seeing that prompt.

Updating the entry with "pro" version details.

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