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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.0.1302
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:37 am 
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I have been waiting for Cue sheets support for almost four (4) years (I requested this on 2012.12.27 for the first time) and now I finally give up. The lack of support for Cue sheets makes this (and any other) player absolutely useless for me. By the way he best lossless audio format- OptimFROG, is not yet supported either.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:52 am 
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smaragdus wrote:
I have been waiting for Cue sheets support for almost four (4) years (I requested this on 2012.12.27 for the first time) and now I finally give up. The lack of support for Cue sheets makes this (and any other) player absolutely useless for me. By the way he best lossless audio format- OptimFROG, is not yet supported either.

Now we know that every player without cue sheet support is useless to you.

What might be useful to you, might not be useful to others, and priorities differ greatly. Doesn't mean they're not working on it...


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:40 am 
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Resonic was updated to 0.8.1b.
Full list of changes: https://resonic.at/whatsnew

Remarks:
  • Unofficial builds, and official Player builds, will now show a one-time reminder for each update.

New features:
  • Resonic now supports native playback of OptimFROG Lossless (.ofr) and OptimFROG DualStream (.ofs)
    compressed audio files, and comes bundled with the latest library (5.100);
    see http://losslessaudio.org/ for more information.
    File information and metadata is currently not read, but will be added in a future version.
  • Pro: New snap indicator for waveform.
    When the cursor is moved on a snap element (cue, marker, meta transient, locators)
    it turns white and shows the full timecode at the snapped position.
  • Double-click the empty area in the middle tab bar to maximize the middle section,
    i.e. the file list (currently the same as pressing F4).
  • Volume is now faded in for two seconds when Resonic starts with track resume.
    And here's a reminder that you can disable track resume by holding down the CTRL key
    while Resonic is starting up.
  • Command line option 'start-ramp-duration' that lets you override the fade in duration
    in milliseconds (e.g. 2000 for two seconds);
    see https://resonic.at/docs/command-line
  • Pro: Cursor now snaps to selection start/end positions.
    Click the selection start to play the loop from the beginning.
    Click the selection end to start playing from where the loop ends.
  • Pro: Option to hide the browser icons for a minimal look.
    You might want to try this with the dark theme!
  • Pro: New launch mode 'Prepare, but don't play' that puts Resonic in a cue ready
    state where files are loaded, prepared, and paused, but not actually played.
    Playback will start on a subsequent click, on ENTER, on SPACE, or on seek.
    The default behavior is 'Play immediately', i.e. the first click loads and plays files.
  • Pro: 'Select all' added to cue/marker button menu.
  • Pro: Create 'Selection for tempo/beats' added to cue/marker button menu,
    which lets you create a fixed-length selection for a certain tempo, beat and measure count.
  • Mouse wheel support for large popup menus to quickly scroll around.
  • Pro: Added 'Playback speed' to pitch button popup menu to change playback frequency,
    with the most common frequency values available.
    The file's original frequency is highlighted in bold text
    and the currently selected playback frequency has a check mark next to it.

Improvements:
  • Pro: Improved semitones and cents selection in pitch button popup menu.
  • Several color tweaks and better sort column visibility.
  • Refreshed Explorer icons for lossy and video types (setup version only,
    and not included in portable versions which have no Windows Explorer integration).
  • Improved crash handling for better error reports.
    Please keep sending us the mini dumps Resonic generates when it crashes! They help us fix bugs.

Corrections:
  • Fixed sound driver selection not always being saved.
  • Fixed startup crashes with certain stubborn graphics cards.
  • Fixed visual glitches with custom header/info/status bars when toggled.
  • Some multimedia keys were not handled correctly when the main window was active.
    This did not affect the use of multimedia keys as global hotkeys.
  • Fixed status bar button cosmetic issues.
  • Fixed fullscreen window restore behavior (F11).


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:16 pm 
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Resonic was updated to 0.8.5b.
Full list of changes: https://resonic.at/whatsnew

Summary:
This release is a milestone on the way to advanced features:
the file list filter lets you visually filter what's displayed in the file list by filename
(artist, title, album, or any other available metadata in the Pro version.)
Resonic now has a an often-requested double-click mode for the file list,
improved drag & drop handling (does not restart files),
and a fully reworked configuration system.
We've also let go of Windows XP support in favor of faster progress and features.

Remarks:
  • Please note that you'll have to re-configure some of your settings (e.g. hotkeys)
    because of heavy internal configuration system changes.
  • Windows XP is no longer supported by Resonic.
    There are several reasons for this move, one being that writing compatibility code
    for XP has been holding back development.

New features:
  • Visual file list filtering.
    Press CTRL-F, or F3, or use the filter button on the status bar,
    to toggle the filter panel, then click the settings button on the right
    to change which columns (metadata) you wish to use for filtering.
    Note that the Player version only filters by filename while the Pro version supports
    all available meta columns (both visible and invisible), e.g. description, or album.
    While the filter panel is active use the 'aa'/'Aa' button (or ALT-C) to toggle
    between caseless and case-sensitive matching,
    use the menu button (or ALT-S) to open the filter settings menu.
  • Resonic now supports file list double-click behavior, an often-requested feature.
    To enable it go to 'Menu | Playback'.
    Single-click behavior will instantly play a file once you click it,
    and will restart the file when double-clicked (by default).
    Double-click behavior will only play a file when you double-click it,
    and will restart the file when double-clicked.
  • Resonic no longer restarts the active file on subsequent clicks,
    which is very useful for frequent drag and drop users.
    To change this behavior mode go to 'Menu | Playback'.
    This feature can be combined with double-click or single-click behavior.
  • Support for high-resolution DSD audio files compressed with WavPack,
    i.e. compressed DSF/DFF in .wv files.
    Note that while DSD-in-WV saves quite a bit of space (in our tests 35-50%) it also
    takes a bit longer to decode (e.g. to prepare the waveform.)
  • File list header popup (right click any column header to see it) now stays open
    when you click certain items, which allows you to check/uncheck multiple items easily.
    The same applies to the filter popup menu.
  • Pro: Slices can now be erased the same way they can be created, with ALT-click,
    as long as the mouse cursor is snapped to them.
  • Page switching in preferences dialog with CTRL-TAB and SHIFT-CTRL-TAB.
  • Added 'Browse to containing folder' to file list popup menu which points the browser
    to the file's parent folder.
    This item is only visible when the current list contains files from more than one source,
    e.g. when you scan folders recursively (ALT-click on a folder in browser.)
  • Made file list columns accessible via 'Columns' submenu in file list popup menu.
  • Added 'Safely remove this device' function to browser context menu popup
    when a removable USB disk is right-clicked (tested with USB sticks so far.)
  • Added eject and close CD/DVD drive tray functions to browser context menu popup
    when an optical drive is right-clicked.
  • Holding down SHIFT-CTRL-ALT while Resonic is starting up now allows you to reset
    Resonic's preferences if neccessary (a warning will be shown.)
  • Pro: 'Select all' for waveform (CTRL-ALT-A) that toggles between all/selection
    (preserves the current selection.)

Improvements:
  • Pro: Current ASIO device sample rate is now used for playback by default.
  • Resonic now always defaults to WASAPI as standard output device as it is the most stable.
    ASIO is still experimental (you might get buffer repeats on slow systems.)
    DirectSound is no longer recommended, as it is the lowest quality output system,
    and might be dropped in a future version now that XP is no longer supported.
  • MOD/MIDI renderers now use the output device's native sample rate to achieve
    the expected quality, and to avoid unnecessary resampling.
  • Reworked the application-wide configuration system to support complex setting structures,
    which is an essential requirement for many upcoming features.
    Settings are no longer stored in the 'config-*.db' database files,
    but stored in a text file called 'Preferences.json'.
    A backup is automatically saved to 'Preferences.bak' on exit.
  • Slightly higher file list rows, easier to look at. Font size options are in the works.
  • Several micro optimizations, e.g. for file list and browser drawing,
    and for theme loading.
  • File list items disappear faster when deleted (using the DEL key.)
    Please note that we use the operating system's delete functions.
    Files are always recycled, never permanently deleted,
    i.e. they are moved to Windows' own 'Recycle Bin' from where they can be restored.
  • Improved fast-restore of last-played folder in browser, improving overall start-up speed
    again because not all parent folders have to be scanned.
    Only the last active folder is initially shown.
    Folders that are not fully expanded on startup will use italic fonts.
    You can click them to fully expand them.
  • Playback now stops instantly when you delete a file.
    Press ENTER to continue playback with the next file in list.
  • The 'Keep playback position' feature (formerly known as 'Maintain position')
    now also works when a playing file is deleted.
  • Some items in the file list popup menu are now hidden when not applicable,
    e.g. no "Clear selection" when there is no actual selection. which keeps the menu
    more compact and dynamic, and tailored to the actual context.
  • Pro: Sample rate conversion quality can now be changed for drag & drop and slice extractions,
    see marker button menu 'Extraction format'.
    The lowest quality interpolation setting can be useful for sound design,
    for example when you pitch audio down and you want to capture that certain crisp
    unsmoothed low-fidelity in the output.
    Please note that this does not apply to the crop buttons.
  • More reliable folder delete (waveform and meta scans are stopped.)
  • Pro: Higher quality interpolation (SRC) for MIDI playback and rendering.
  • More visible markings on files that have been cut to clipboard (CTRL-X).
  • Light and Dark (Pro) theme color changes.
  • WavPack decoder updated to 5.0.0
  • Flac decoder updated to libFlac 1.3.2
  • Opus decoder updated to libOpus 1.1.4

Corrections:
  • Optical drives could disappear from browser when media was ejected.
  • Fixed issue with CTRL-UP and CTRL-DOWN in browser (always plays sequentially now.)
  • A handful of browser crash issues.
  • Faster and more reliable application shutdown.
  • Pro: Fixed occasionally wrong value displayed when dragging pitch buttons.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.5.1483 Beta
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:53 pm 
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two wrote:
smaragdus wrote:
I have been waiting for Cue sheets support for almost four (4) years (I requested this on 2012.12.27 for the first time) and now I finally give up. The lack of support for Cue sheets makes this (and any other) player absolutely useless for me. By the way he best lossless audio format- OptimFROG, is not yet supported either.

Now we know that every player without cue sheet support is useless to you.

What might be useful to you, might not be useful to others, and priorities differ greatly. Doesn't mean they're not working on it...
My post contains some information- I said basically 2 things:
  • that I requested support for Cue sheets long time ago;
  • that a player which does not support Cue sheets has no value for me;

I was not elaborating on what is or might be useful to others. I was referring to my needs only.

I use players which can play all the audio formats I have. If a player cannot play all the audio formats I have it has no value for me.

Does your post contain any information? I think it doesn't- it contains just some weasel wording.

You said "Now we know..."- how many are you?

Today I tested Resonic version 0.8.5.1483 Beta (portable edition) on Windows 8 and I do not think I will do that again- after more than 5 years of development for me the quality of Resonic is still pre-Alpha- besides the exceptionally unhandy hamburger button (for example I have to click "Interface" drop-down menu time and again to select the preferred settings) Resonic doesn't respect the chosen options- even though "Always close to tray" is marked "Close" button always exits the program and no matter that "Always minimize to tray" is selected Resonic still appears in task bar. More- "Playback"->"Play immediately" cannot be deselected. Yet upon all these bugs and quirks there is a Pro version which costs 69€, for me this amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.5.1483 Beta
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:52 pm 
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@smaragdus: Bickering about things you don't like does not help anybody. Go talk to the developers or stop using it. I'm merely posting updates here.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:06 am 
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@smaragdus: Bickering about things you don't like does not help anybody. Go talk to the developers or stop using it. I'm merely posting updates here.
Thank you for the updates you post but are you trying to censor me? As far as I know at this forum everyone is free to express their opinions. So please do not tell me what to do. I have never used Resonic because it still does not meet my requirements for an audio player. I explicitly said that I had just tested it and shared my impressions about the latest (0.8.5.1483) build.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:15 am 
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smaragdus wrote:
@twoThank you for the updates you post but are you trying to censor me? As far as I know at this forum everyone is free to express their opinions. So please do not tell me what to do.

Nope not trying to censor you, why would I, but have u ever read the version changes and how many people are mentioned there for reporting something? Maybe send them an email about what you want or post on their board like I did in the past and it might just happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:42 am 
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Nope not trying to censor you, why would I, but have u ever read the version changes and how many people are mentioned there for reporting something? Maybe send them an email about what you want or post on their board like I did in the past and it might just happen.
Thank you for your suggestion, I will consider it. What discourages me is that I once (Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM) contacted the developers about two things- OptimFROG (OFR) support and Cue sheets support, support for OptimFROG format was finally added in version 0.8.1.1361 Beta released on 2016.11.06 but Cue sheets support is still not implemented more than 4 years after my initial request. More, with so many testers it evades me how no one has noticed that "Always close to tray" does not work (at least for me "Always close to tray" enabled doesn't prevent "Close" to exit the program, Windows 8 here).


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:17 pm 
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Resonic was updated to 0.8.6b.
Full list of changes: https://resonic.at/whatsnew

New features:
  • Pro: Vertical waveform zoom.
    Drag the button next to the volume bar ('1.0') up and down or use the mouse wheel
    to change the vertical zoom factor; click it to reset the zoom.
  • Popup menus now automatically close when you move the mouse away from them
    for improved usability.
    This option can be toggled via 'Menu | Interface'.
  • Pro: New sample rate conversion (SRC) quality settings for audio extraction:
    high/higher/maximum, or 64/128/256-bit sinc interpolation respectively.
    See marker button menu 'Extraction format.'
  • Pro: New sampling rate settings for audio extraction: 88.2 kHz and 96 kHz.
    See marker button menu 'Extraction format.'
  • Pro: New bit depth setting for audio extraction: 8-bit.
    See marker button menu 'Extraction format.'
  • Pro: Solid waveform background, which is the default Pro style now
    (see 'Menu | Visualization | Waveform style').
  • Resonic can now be closed regardless of the 'Close to tray' setting (force close)
    by using CTRL-ALT-F4, in addition to the regular ALT-F4.
  • Info bar now shows additional information for DSD files (.dsf/.dff).
  • Pro: Right-click menu for stop button.
    Lets you fade out and stop the current track, or disable fade outs on stop
    for immediate stop behavior. (#434)
  • Pro: Right-click menu for play/pause buttons.
    Lets you disable fades on pause for immediate pause/unpause behavior,
    and disable the temporary dimming feature accessed by holding down the SPACE key
    while playing which makes it more reactive. (#999)
  • When the filter panel is open (CTRL-F, or F3) the F3 key can now be used to cycle
    through the filtered results just like in a text editor.
    Use SHIFT-F3 to reverse the cycle order.

Improvements:
  • Pro: Default sample rate conversion quality set to maximum (256-bit sinc.)
  • Subtle highlighting of black keys in musical spectrum.
    Note that the Pro version shows the key names (e.g. 'C# 3') on mouse hover as well.
  • Pro: Showing lines separating individual channels ('channel lines') by default
    (see 'Menu | Visualization | Waveform style').
  • Pro: Improved text visibility for pitch buttons.
  • Selected audio devices are saved immediately upon selection now.

Corrections:
  • Automatic track advance sometimes failed when using a WASAPI output driver.
  • Track would not advance automatically after seeking when player was stopped.
  • Fixed 'Minimize to tray' and 'Close to tray' not being saved correctly,
    two casualties of last version's configuration system rework.

  • Wave files with AC3 header and content were not being played properly on Windows 7
    and Windows Server.
  • Waveform display issues with FLAC files on certain systems.
    Temporarily reverted back to previous version of FLAC plugin/decoder (the new plugin
    can be selected manually in the setup version of Resonic.)


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.6.1505 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:01 pm 
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Fixed "Minimize to tray" and "Close to tray" not being saved correctly, two casualties of last version's configuration system rework.
(reported: Gazonga)
I confirm that tray problems have been fixed- now the program can be minimized to task-bar and closed to tray which is my preferred behaviour. What I have been waiting for so long is not yet here.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:35 am 
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Resonic was updated to 0.8.7b.

Full list of changes: https://resonic.at/whatsnew

New features:
  • Pro: Playback and metadata support for RF64 Wave files (MBWF, BWF Wave, Broadcast Wave).
    RF64 Wave files are RIFF Wave files (both are .wav) that can go past the 2GB
    file size limit, but cannot be read by legacy players.
    These files are typically created by modern applications that need to be able
    to create very large files, e.g. Steinberg Cubase automatically creates RF64/MBWF
    .wav files on export if the file size exceeds 2GB.
  • Pro: Now reads and plays BWF Wave files with .bwf extensions.
  • Pro: Project, Scene, Take, and Tape columns that correspond with
    iXML metadata embedded in audio files. (#1187)
  • Pro: Heavily improved support for Soundminer metadata embedded in
    WAV, AIFF, and MP3 files.
  • Resonic now supports WavPack hybrid correction files (.wvc).
    In hybrid compression mode WavPack creates pairs of .wv/.wvc files,
    and while the resulting .wv file is lossy the accompanying (but optional) .wvc file
    can be used to complete missing information for lossless playback.
    Resonic will look for a .wvc file in the .wv file's path.
    Thanks to the author of WavPack, David Bryant, for pointing this out!
  • Auto-closing popup menus now also fade out.
  • Browser now automatically expands collapsed folders after a short delay
    when dragging something onto them.
  • Browser now automatically scrolls while dragging something into it.
  • Pro: Create temporary slices from slice metas,
    i.e. from slices stored in the metadata of certain filetypes, when available.
  • When using WASAPI as output device (recommended) and the active device is disconnected
    or disabled Resonic will first shut down playback and then the device itself,
    and finally show a warning.
  • A transparent overlay is now shown between main window and dialogs (e.g. preferences)
    and message or input boxes to focus the attention.
    This feature can be disabled via 'Menu | Interface'.

Improvements:
  • Bigger and more readable fonts for waveform playback position (orange),
    and waveform/analyzer/spectrum/level meter mouse position (blue). (#1165)
  • Pro: Showing detailed timecode while making selections (SHIFT),
    and when snapped to markers, slices, or the loop start/end positions.
  • Flac decoder updated to libFlac 1.3.2, fixed previous release's issues.
  • Popup menu fixes and usability improvements.
  • Drag & drop improvements.
  • Pro: Raised level meter channel limit to 64. (#1173)
  • Much faster loading of large MIDI files (e.g. 'Black MIDI')
  • Pro: Reading additional meta data for several formats, e.g. tempo column (bpm)
    is now calculated based on other available information if possible.
  • Waveform drawing improvements for multichannel files.
  • Pro: Bigger asynchronous file read buffer, worth the little extra memory use.
  • Recently changed created/accessed/modified dates now show up more descriptively
    as 'Today' and 'Yesterday'. (#1182)
  • Browser is updated faster when creating new folders.

Corrections:
  • Fixed track advance not working with DirectSound (DS) output devices.

  • Fixed broken file list column order in certain situations.
  • Fixed file list issues when deleting files.
  • Maximized main window was not being restored when exited in minimized state.


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:39 am 
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Being one of the best non-lossy formats, improvements for WavPack processing are highly welcome. Great job! 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Resonic Player - fastest audio player/sample browser
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:01 pm 
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two wrote:
Resonic was updated to 0.8.7b.


Thank you. Entry updated. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Resonic 0.8.7.1521 Beta
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:08 pm 
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Resonic is now nag-ware:

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I could not find the new "Nag" feature in the change log. For me Resonic is a hopeless player and the new "Nag" features puts an end to my tests.

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Being one of the best non-lossy formats, improvements for WavPack processing are highly welcome. Great job! 8)
What is good about WavPack? Its low compression ratio beaten even by the mediocre FLAC?


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