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lautrepay
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Re: Suspicious users

#46 Post by lautrepay »

AndTheWolf wrote:I'm one of those forum members who never post, though I do contribute a comment now and then, usually about an incorrect link. I joined the forum, as much as anything else, because I wanted to be able to easily see member points any given piece of software had earned, and also because I like to read some of the discussions even if I don't have anything in particular to add.
Welcome to the forums, then, AndTheWolf. :D
Although you've never posted before, comments on the entries are always very much appreciated.

freakazoid
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Re: Suspicious users

#47 Post by freakazoid »

Andrew Lee wrote:I performed some experiments today. Thought you guys might find it interesting.

First I was wondering if there is a loop hole in reCaptcha, which is allowing the spammers to sign up easily.

So I switch over to Q&A format and entered some easy questions (eg. what is the color of snow?)

The spammers were still coming in.

Then I began to wonder if there is a loophole in the registration process of phpBB that is allowing the spammers to bypass the botcheck.

So I make the answer gibberish (eg. instead of "white", it became "aksdhka").

Not a single spammer came through this time.

So the answer is clear. Like the article I read in Wired, the spammers are definitely using low cost workers in India or elsewhere to solve the reCaptcha or Q&A. I guessed as much because the reCaptchas are OCR segments with no easy answer in the first place, and I'd be surprised if they didn't patch up any security holes.

Then I got curious and wonder what kind of trouble they'd go through to answer a question. How about one Google search? So I updated the questions with harder ones like "How many states are there in the US?", or "How many symphonies did Beethoven compose?"

The spammers were still coming in, but at a reduced rate this time. Unscientifically, it's about 30% reduction. So some of your low cost third world workers are still quite eager to earn their pay.

So now the questions have been replaced with more "personal" ones eg. "Who is the founder of TPFC?"

Since then, not a single spammer yet. Maybe it really is too much trouble this time. :D
Very cool analysis.

FYI, if you're not a regular, do you think people will understand what the TPFC acronym stands for? Maybe change the question to "Who is the founder of this awesome site?" instead. :)

But that might increase the spammers because the question would then be understood ;)
is it stealth? ;)

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ChemZ
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Re: Suspicious users

#48 Post by ChemZ »

AndTheWolf wrote:I'm one of those forum members who never post, though I do contribute a comment now and then, usually about an incorrect link. I joined the forum, as much as anything else, because I wanted to be able to easily see member points any given piece of software had earned, and also because I like to read some of the discussions even if I don't have anything in particular to add.
Ditto! :D

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Re: Suspicious users

#49 Post by Midas »

ChemZ wrote:"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" - Douglas Adams
This is great on so many levels that it makes me barf rainbows... :mrgreen:

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