Is Opera 12 standard portable or not ?

joby_toss · **Posted:** Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:58 am

For me, Firefox is the one that comes closest in functionality (and trust), although it is slower. And I use Iron for Youtube, because it handles flash better.
I will have a second look at Maxthon as my third option.
Chrome is for 18+ stuff only! :twisted:

Let's see Google making a database of that browsing habits! :evil:

P.S. should we split this discussion?

webfork · **Posted:** Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:29 am

joby_toss wrote:

P.S. should we split this discussion?

If it really becomes a topic hijack, then yeah I'll move it.

Emka · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:31 pm **Posts:** 195

I've already pointed out elsewhere that, to me, there is no decent alternative to Opera in terms of portability, functionality and usability. I might get a guilty conscience but I think whether I continue using "Facebookera" will mostly depend on what Facebook does to the browser.

tproli · **Posted:** Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:46 am

I would keep the last Facebook-free Opera as long as possible. As said before, it depends on how Opera would change.

I would also need a hardware update to run FF or Chrome without running out of memory.

freakazoid · **Joined:** Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:45 pm **Posts:** 598

tproli wrote:

I would keep the last Facebook-free Opera as long as possible. As said before, it depends on how Opera would change.

I would also need a hardware update to run FF or Chrome without running out of memory.

I actually switched from Opera to Firefox (Pale Moon) because Opera was starting to use more memory!

I have 100+ tabs open in Pale Moon right now and it's only using 380MB of RAM. This is because I have a modified version of the BarTab extension running that only loads the tabs I've viewed in the last 10 minutes.

If Opera had a tabs-on-demand feature like Firefox, I would switch back to Opera in an instant! But until then, I have rekindled my interest in Firefox.

joby_toss wrote:

For me, Firefox is the one that comes closest in functionality (and trust), although it is slower. And I use Iron for Youtube, because it handles flash better.
I will have a second look at Maxthon as my third option.
Chrome is for 18+ stuff only! :twisted:

Let's see Google making a database of that browsing habits! :evil:

Firefox has a private browsing mode as well.

As for Iron, I'd recommend Chromium Portable instead as it has a smaller package and is pretty much the same. Iron's "enhancements" are too minimal to be considered a fork of Chromium.

Maxthon gets cool points from me for trying to innovate their UI from the stock Chromium interface. I would probably tell them to get rid of the Trident engine and just focus on Webkit/Chromium.

The one thing I don't like about all Chromium browsers is that it uses a ton of memory! If you use Adblock Plus in Chromium, it will take up 80MB of RAM alone! View your Chrome task manager and see how much memory it takes. Of course, you could state that Chromium is more secure because it uses a different process for each tab / plugin, but I don't like that.

SYSTEM · **Posted:** Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:44 am

webfork wrote:

Assuming I'm doing the math right here and this is a real possibility, I was wondering if you'd keep using if Facebook bought it? If not, what's your 2nd choice?

I'd try to stick with Opera. My threshold of changing the main browser is very high because I don't want to lose all the customizations I have done.

However, I simply can't imagine Facebook developing a power user friendly browser, so they'll likely remove features to make the browser more simple.

(I'd love to be wrong here, though.) If Facebook does that, I'll switch.

I've had my eye on SeaMonkey and GreenBrowser. I'll likely choose SeaMonkey in the end, because GreenBrowser is based on the Trident engine which is very slow and doesn't support web standards well.

Ruby · **Joined:** Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:35 pm **Posts:** 287

freakazoid wrote:

The one thing I don't like about all Chromium browsers is that it uses a ton of memory! If you use Adblock Plus in Chromium, it will take up 80MB of RAM alone! View your Chrome task manager and see how much memory it takes.

Adblock Plus is a forked version of the Firefox addon; there is an AdBlock Chrome extension - that I use - which is more tailored to Chrome.

From the 'Details' tab of the extensions Home/Download page, the author writes:

Quote:

1. This is AdBlock: the original Chrome extension written from the ground up to be optimized for Chrome. I was inspired by the excellent Firefox "Adblock Plus" project (which is a fork of an old Firefox "Adblock" project -- confusing, I know), but I'm not related to those, nor to "Adblock Plus For Google Chrome", to which the old "AdThwart" extension was recently renamed.

2. I built a Safari version too, available at safariadblock.com

AdBlock - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... kkbiglidom

~Ruby

freakazoid · **Joined:** Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:45 pm **Posts:** 598

Ruby wrote:

Adblock Plus is a forked version of the Firefox addon; there is an AdBlock Chrome extension - that I use - which is more tailored to Chrome.

If you add a few more tabs to that, how much memory does Adblock take?

Your task manager screenshot emphasizes how much I don't like Chrome's memory process management.

Why does an "Image Properties Context Menu" extension take up roughly 7.5MB RAM? That's way too much for such a simplistic addon. If you add twenty more extensions, your memory usage will go sky high!

The good thing about Chrome is it has built-in support for Greasemonkey scripts:
http://userscripts.org

And this doesn't add to the memory footprint.

Midas · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:34 am

I have to say that I share freakzoid feelings towards Chrome memory usage model... :roll:

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

A Release Candidate is available >> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/20 ... -to-twelve

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

Check out the Opera Theme creator >> http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/20 ... me-creator

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

Release Candidate 3 is available for download >> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/20 ... ra-12-rc-3

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

Neat little trick I found. Locate Opera.exe and open the INI file operaprefs_default.ini. Then edit the following section 'System' and the key 'Opera Product' to one of the following.

Quote:

Opera (0), Opera next (1) or Opera Labs (2). Windows only.

Source: http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera ... ni/#system

Or navigate here >> opera:config#System|OperaLabsName

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

Don't forget with Opera there is the new -pd command >> http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/09 ... ory-switch

e.g. "<OPERA_PATH>\Opera.exe" -pd "%TEMP%\Opera_Temporary"

guinness · **Joined:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:00 am **Posts:** 3733

Opera 12 is out

Another reason why Opera is innovative >> http://www.slashgeek.net/2012/06/08/5-f ... did-first/

Is Opera 12 standard portable or not ?

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