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 Post subject: Donationware
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:57 am 
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A portable program (My Daily Wallpaper) was mention in a UK magazine recently.
It stems from a site ...
myportablesoftware.com
I did a search and strangely there is only one mention of the site in PFC (under Free File Camouflage).
In the thread Mr Reliable (aka Baas) rightly commented that the program was donationware with a nag and required .NET Framework.
I think the .NET issue is becoming a non-issue.
So that leaves the issue of donationware.
Just to be clear - from this site you can use the apps for free indefinitely.
A donation avoids a 'gentle' nag. That implies that the app is not stealth. But then, lots of PFC apps are not stealth.

What is the general view on donationware? Is it tolerable? or a No-No?


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 Post subject: Re: Donationware
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:26 pm 
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[opinion]Though .Net is increasingly on PCs, it is still optional. My dislike for it being in TPFC is that it then makes the programs included in the database depend on something/anything being on a PC.

As far as donationware/nagware I've a much harder stance. If I'm fixing or working on someone else's PC I don't want a program telling me "buy this or I'll ask you again." In fact I don't even want that on my PC (portable or otherwise) The ONLY app I have on my USB that's nagware is WordZap (which isn't included in the Database) and that's cause it's a time-waster game.
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 Post subject: Re: Donationware
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:40 am 
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Taking MiDoJo expressed view as departing point, I have no problem with a .Net dependency as long as it is kept as basic as possible, currently meaning 2.0 -- since it seems to be present by default in all Windows Vista+ and most probably is installed too in XP. Of course, given several portable options, I'll always prefer the one with the least dependencies...

As for the nagware issue, which I don't compound with the more prevalent donationware category, I am totally averse to applications that incorporate any such feature. IMHO, it's a matter of confidence: any developer has the right to derive monetary profit from the software he assembles, but if s/he saw fit to so intrude in her/his users' systems, then that is a doomed relationship right from the start -- because whenever the going gets tough(er), I firmly believe that s/he'll be more inclined to take further initiatives that don't have her/his users best interests in mind...

So and to sum it up, I'm OK with unobtrusive donationware, but I absolutelly refuse to use any nagware and I think it should always be clearly flagged as such.


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 Post subject: Re: Donationware
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:23 am 
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JohnW wrote:
So that leaves the issue of donationware.
Just to be clear - from this site you can use the apps for free indefinitely.
A donation avoids a 'gentle' nag. That implies that the app is not stealth. But then, lots of PFC apps are not stealth.

What is the general view on donationware? Is it tolerable? or a No-No?

I think this qualifies as "Nagware" because if you have to pay money to get full use of the program without annoyances, it's not freeware. One exception is FileZilla and Transmission (two of my favorite file transfer clients): these nag you every few times you start the program, but provide the option "don't ask again".

Site policy is (as far as I know) anti-nagware based on the entries for Disk Digger and SilentNight Micro CD Burner.

Personally, if its a program you use once in a great while and does something really fantastic, I'd be willing to use nagware. If its daily use, I'd start looking for something else. I used to love WinZip but the nag screen drove me crazy.

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