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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:53 am 
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Thank you tproli, that did do the trick. I was hoping to setup Monitoring at the 1st level directory and the folders "test1" and "test2" would be monitored using the option "scan also subfolders". That did result in a infinite loop when it began moving files. I guess I will need to just periodically peak in the folders and use DropIt from there.


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:27 am 
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I planned to change the loading method in a next release, to improve performance and solve some issues (like infinite loops), loading all files at the beginning and then start to process them..

Currently I worked on the following planned features:
- Upload action is partially implemented now and if someone would like to help me with tests, I can send a PM with a link to the test version
- added manage duplicates also as profile option
- added several date and time special abbreviations (year, month, day, time) to improve support to sort documents and multimedia files in dated folders
- fixed %DateTaken% that now may works independently from the local time format

Known issues:
- Upload action still has some problems and needs tests (FTP works with files and not with folders, SFTP doesn't update progress bar for folders, file dates are loaded without timezone conversion and so "Overwrite if newer" doesn't correctly work)
- the GUI freezing bug of manage duplicates loaded with SendTo is very strange and probably can be fixed only completely changing the file loading method (described at the beginning)
- the /Refresh issue needs more tests to be fixed (I'm waiting to test DropIt with Rainmeter to verify it)

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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:05 am 
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Loading all files at the beginning of the process is a good move (earlier I thought that it was working like that). You mean creating a file list to be processed, right?

I have some ftp/sftp access so I can perform tests.


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Greetings,
I would like DropIt to handle *.zip files as follows:
Create a NewFolder in the same Folder, and with the same name as the dropped *.zip file.
And I would like DropIt to Cut/Paste the dropped *.zip file,
into the Newly created Folder.
Pls, how can this be done?
Thanks...Vernon

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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:46 pm 
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This is basically the same as "move MyArchive.zip file to a new directory named MyArchive", right?

Use these in the Edit Associations dialog:
- Name: [whatever]
- Rules: *.zip
- Action: Move
- Destination Folder: %ParentDir%\%FileName%


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:58 pm 
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tproli wrote:
Use these in the Edit Associations dialog:
- Name: [ZipFiles]
- Rules: *.zip
- Action: Move
- Destination Folder: %ParentDir%\%FileName%

Ah
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Very Slick!

I took the SendTo option, and replaced "." with "_".
Like this: %ParentDir%\%FileName%_%FileExt%

Thank you very much!...vm

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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:02 am 
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Using the portable version, I've been trying to make DropIt work without any success. I already RTFM and am feeling really dumb ATM...

Question: What's the easiest way to monitor a particular folder and move archives and executables to another one?

Code:
Options > Monitoring
Scan every = 360
Monitored Folder = %USERPROFILE%\Desktop
Associated Profile = Cleaner

Manage Associations ('Cleaner' selected in bottom drop-down control)
Rules = *.zip; *.rar; *.7z; *.exe
Action = Move
Destination Folder = \Store\!Incoming

Code:
[Associations]
*.zip; *.rar; *.7z; *.exe$0=\Store\!Incoming|Clean Desktop|>KB;>>;>>;>>|Enabled|

The above produces absolutely no effect. What am I doing wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:21 am 
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I think "\Store\!Incoming" is bad. Use a relative path ".\Store\!Incoming" or "..\Store\!Incoming", or use a special abbreviation (internal variables) like "%ParentDir%\Store\!Incoming".


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:36 am 
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tproli wrote:
I think "\Store\!Incoming" is bad. Use a relative path ".\Store\!Incoming" or "..\Store\!Incoming", or use a special abbreviation (internal variables) like "%ParentDir%\Store\!Incoming".

Thank you, trproli. I intended that path to be relative to the drive root, not the progdir, so this could be easily copied over to other pcs. Do you know if the target must exist beforehand? (It does in my test)

Also the "Special Abreviations", under "Paths" mention the variable %Desktop%, but in front put "C:\Users\{username}\Desktop" as the target -- in my XP Pro SP3 system, that path is in fact "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Desktop"...

Overall, I'm left feeling the options are poorly documented... :(


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Target is created if it doesn't exists as I know.

Desktop path difference looks like a xp vs win7 issue. Perhaps it is hard-coded?

An idea to the devs: how about modifying the Special Abbreviations dialog to show the actual user directories? So if I'm logged in as tproli, the %Desktop% in the Paths tab would look like this, for example:

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%Desktop% = c:\Documents and Settings\tproli\Asztal\


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:37 am 
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tproli wrote:
An idea to the devs: how about modifying the Special Abbreviations dialog to show the actual user directories?

Great idea. 8)

IMHO, the interface is somewhat confusing, with three different levels of configuration: 'options', 'profiles', and 'associations' -- one of those should be merged...

'Options' should contain only global program options; 'profiles' and 'associations' should share the same configuration dialog (and menu/shortcuts paths), with casual reminders of global options that may impact them. There should be a 'test' button, for one to be able to see what the outcome of a selected profile/associations would be (without actually performing the actions). Would this be too demanding?


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:11 am 
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vmars316 wrote:
I took the SendTo option, and replaced "." with "_".
Like this: %ParentDir%\%FileName%_%FileExt%

Thank you very much!...vm
It seems you found a good solution to sort your files.. one of these weeks I'd like to update DropIt website adding some How-To articles to describe the most common features and uses..

Midas wrote:
Overall, I'm left feeling the options are poorly documented...
Have you read the pdf Guide included in the package? If you report me what info you would like to have, I can consider to improve the Guide..

tproli wrote:
An idea to the devs: how about modifying the Special Abbreviations dialog to show the actual user directories?
I think it's a good idea, even if it is obviously not possible for all special abbreviations.. I'll add it where possible in next release..

Midas wrote:
'Options' should contain only global program options; 'profiles' and 'associations' should share the same configuration dialog (and menu/shortcuts paths), with casual reminders of global options that may impact them. There should be a 'test' button, for one to be able to see what the outcome of a selected profile/associations would be (without actually performing the actions). Would this be too demanding?
I don't exactly understand your idea, even if a major software restyling essentially means to rewrite it at all.. and I think current solution is not a bad, you can see:
1. associations as the elementary component of DropIt,
2. profiles as groups of associations,
3. options as the set of global configurations that all programs have.

The plan now is an improvement release with new features and fixes. Then we could discuss how to design the future of DropIt, maybe considering to totally rewrite it as a new software with a new interface, support to load all files before process, multiple actions and more.

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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:31 am 
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Lupo73 wrote:
Midas wrote:
Overall, I'm left feeling the options are poorly documented...
Have you read the pdf Guide included in the package? If you report me what info you would like to have, I can consider to improve the Guide...
Midas wrote:
I already RTFM

There are some poorly documented options; for instance, tooltips show in the program interface for some, but not for all...

Lupo73 wrote:
Midas wrote:
'Options' should contain only global program options; 'profiles' and 'associations' should share the same configuration dialog (and menu/shortcuts paths), with casual reminders of global options that may impact them. There should be a 'test' button, for one to be able to see what the outcome of a selected profile/associations would be (without actually performing the actions). Would this be too demanding?
I don't exactly understand your idea, even if a major software restyling essentially means to rewrite it at all.. and I think current solution is not a bad, you can see:
1. associations as the elementary component of DropIt,
2. profiles as groups of associations,
3. options as the set of global configurations that all programs have.

The plan now is an improvement release with new features and fixes. Then we could discuss how to design the future of DropIt, maybe considering to totally rewrite it as a new software with a new interface, support to load all files before process, multiple actions and more.

I see. The logic of that arrangement I gathered from reading the documentation -- which BTW is always the first thing I do whenever I get into trouble. Please excuse me if my humble suggestions don't fit into your development road-map. I didn't mean to belittle your generous and most laudable work.

But this is not the first time I tried DropIt and I've come away frustrated every time. What I offered here was a candid account of my experience coupled with a few well-meant suggestions. Others will surely disagree, as yours is a rather popular utility. Nonetheless, I was unable to make DropIt do my bidding. When things don't work, some information should be available to allow the user to solve or circumvent the issue, don't you think? I'm not dumb and, although I'm not a developer, I've had many years of successful use of computers, well beyond their mere out-of-the-box status. Having stated this, I ask you please disregard anything I say if you find it inconvenient... :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:01 am 
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Don't worry, I'm not angry.. :wink: I only ask you more info to understand what aspects are not well documented and to know where improve them.. and even if the complete restyling cannot be performed now, you could report me possible minor changes to improve and simplify current solution..

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 Post subject: Re: DropIt
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:08 am 
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Lupo73 wrote:
... even if the complete restyling cannot be performed now, you could report me possible minor changes to improve and simplify current solution..

Will do, as I make further tests... 8)

Would you care to comment on what I tried above: is it not possible or was it wrongly configured?


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