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Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:18 pm
by smaragdus
shirouzu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am
I decided to offer only the installer for the following reason.
Files that are unzipped by Explorer are given the Internet zone attribute in ADS.
This not only gives warnings in the EXE file, but also causes strange bugs that are displayed only in the table of contents in the CHM file.
I add /SILENT and /EXTRACT option to the installer.
You can confirm it with /h option.
For me this is strange logic- to punish the advanced users with an installer because there are idiots who do not have or do not use archivers. I have been using
FastCopy since version
1.99r2 from
2009. I have been generally contented with the program so I will keep
FastCopy version
3.41 but I cannot update it any longer- I have tried several tools but all of them have failed to extract the installer. As a result I switched to
Copy Handler- it rarely gets updates but it works just fine for me.
Re: Fast Copy - file copier
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:21 pm
by shirouzu
This problem was fixed in v3.54.
https://fastcopy.jp/en/
shirouzu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:04 am
zorro wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:37 am
The newly introduced installer writes to the registry when choosing "extract only" (key: HKCU\Software\HSTools)
Oh, it is my mistake.
I will fix it in the next version.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:55 pm
by shirouzu
Every human being has freedom
It is no problem.
But I could not find to know the logical reasons why the archive version is preferable than the installer.
It seems only one logical reason is the problem that creation of the unintended registry key(HKCU\Software\HSTools).
But it is a bug, and it was fixed in v3.54.
(The installer doesn't require admin privilege, and it has an extract button.)
To prepare the archive version, is not so much cost, but I want to know logical reasons.
smaragdus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:18 pm
shirouzu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am
I decided to offer only the installer for the following reason.
Files that are unzipped by Explorer are given the Internet zone attribute in ADS.
This not only gives warnings in the EXE file, but also causes strange bugs that are displayed only in the table of contents in the CHM file.
I add /SILENT and /EXTRACT option to the installer.
You can confirm it with /h option.
For me this is strange logic- to punish the advanced users with an installer because there are idiots who do not have or do not use archivers. I have been using
FastCopy since version
1.99r2 from
2009. I have been generally contented with the program so I will keep
FastCopy version
3.41 but I cannot update it any longer- I have tried several tools but all of them have failed to extract the installer. As a result I switched to
Copy Handler- it rarely gets updates but it works just fine for me.
Re: Fast Copy - file copier
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:38 am
by JudyGarland
3.54 does not share this behaviour with previous versions
denying access does not prevent FC to work properly, though
any clue?
Re: Fast Copy - file copier
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:54 am
by Midas
If you asked me,
Fast Copy is a copying utility so disk access is no surprise.
And what exactly is meant by "
Low Level"?
I haven't tested my theory in any way but just by looking at the screen grab you posted, I surmise
FC is trying to directly access the hardware, bypassing the OS filesystem API, something which might or not be wholly designed -- it wasn't in past versions, as you said, so it could be somewhat of an oversight resulting from ongoing development.
As the author's English is kind of weak, I guess you can either try to break it down in very easy terms or just stick with a previous version until the behavior goes away...
Re: Fast Copy - file copier
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:05 pm
by shirouzu
JudyGarland wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:38 am
3.54 does not share this behaviour with previous versions
denying access does not prevent FC to work properly, though
any clue?
It is only used for detecting SSD or HDD for improving speed control estimation.
(Of cause, it is read only access. it doesn't need admin privilege)
You can confirm the source code in the github.
https://github.com/shirouzu/FastCopy/bl ... y.cpp#L479
https://github.com/shirouzu/FastCopy/bl ... y.cpp#L381
Re: Fast Copy - file copier
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:52 pm
by shirouzu
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 am
by smaragdus
@shirouzu
shirouzu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:55 pm
Every human being has freedom
It is no problem.
But I could not find to know the logical reasons why the archive version is preferable than the installer.
It seems only one logical reason is the problem that creation of the unintended registry key(HKCU\Software\HSTools).
But it is a bug, and it was fixed in v3.54.
(The installer doesn't require admin privilege, and it has an extract button.)
To prepare the archive version, is not so much cost, but I want to know logical reasons.
smaragdus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:18 pm
shirouzu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am
I decided to offer only the installer for the following reason.
Files that are unzipped by Explorer are given the Internet zone attribute in ADS.
This not only gives warnings in the EXE file, but also causes strange bugs that are displayed only in the table of contents in the CHM file.
I add /SILENT and /EXTRACT option to the installer.
You can confirm it with /h option.
For me this is strange logic- to punish the advanced users with an installer because there are idiots who do not have or do not use archivers. I have been using
FastCopy since version
1.99r2 from
2009. I have been generally contented with the program so I will keep
FastCopy version
3.41 but I cannot update it any longer- I have tried several tools but all of them have failed to extract the installer. As a result I switched to
Copy Handler- it rarely gets updates but it works just fine for me.
I do not claim whether it is logical reason or not, it is just my reason- when one extracts an archive no bugs can result in writing to Windows registry. When one uses such installers which offer extraction there is always a risk something to go wrong and to write to Windows registry so with time Windows registry begins to teem with empty registry keys. Here is an example (see
this and
this) where a user erroneously supposed that
HSTools registry key was created by another program. I do not have time to police the Windows registry all the time for installers which claim to offer extraction beside installation. I do not get what is the problem to offer the program both as installer and as archive- thus the users would have freedom of choice (and you may get some statistics which one is the preferred download- the archive or the installer). If you want to save bandwidth you may choose to host the downloads at GitHub (
releases page is currently empty)- if GitHub is used for hosting the users would be able to find previous versions of the program, for example I suppose that it would be very hard to find
FastCopy version
3.41 which I am using and which I do not plan to update.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:01 am
by billon
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:33 am
by webfork
billon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:01 am
(Due to various circumstances, distribution of the source code is temporarily suspended ... Please use FastCopy as freeware with no guarantee)
That's a shame ... from my experience, people don't tend to do this temporarily.
Copy Handler is still open source, but doesn't appear to have the same functionality. I did some digging but there doesn't appear to be a clear copy management alternative with an open license.
Good catch,
billon.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:38 am
by Enternal
@webfork
Yeah, FastCopy is definitely the best of the bunch by far. So I'm also surprised and a bit sad to see that the source code is currently withheld for some reason.
Anyways, I do have both the installer AND the source code for 3.63, the very last version before this happened. I will most likely upload it onto mega.mz. That should be fine, right?
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:48 pm
by webfork
Enternal wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:38 am
Anyways, I do have both the installer AND the source code for 3.63, the very last version before this happened. I will most likely upload it onto mega.mz. That should be fine, right?
I never thought of myself as the keeper of the code but more and more often I find myself downloading source code for any project that I care about. So yeah please do archive and publish whatever code you were able to put your hands on.
Thanks.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 am
by Enternal
Sorry for the late reply. Been really busy. Anyways, yes! The link to it is here:
https://mega.nz/#F!AQdnjCZY!3GArlx0Zrc36iIUd8dGm7A
In addition, the folder also includes what other version of FastCopy I have. It's not very thorough but it is what it is.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:21 am
by webfork
Enternal wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 am
Sorry for the late reply. Been really busy. Anyways, yes! The link to it is here:
https://mega.nz/#F!AQdnjCZY!3GArlx0Zrc36iIUd8dGm7A
In addition, the folder also includes what other version of FastCopy I have. It's not very thorough but it is what it is.
Great stuff thanks. Here's my mirror of the
last 3 source code archives.
Re: FastCopy
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:22 am
by loin2kolpotoru
Since it was released under gpl license, Please share the files on sourceforge for longtime availability to future users.