Super simple decompression [Resolved: PeaExtractor]

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Super simple decompression [Resolved: PeaExtractor]

#1 Post by webfork »

Does anyone know of a stupid-simple decompression tool that works with a wide variety of formats?

TLDR: My current recommendation on this topic is PeaExtractor: https://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2700

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Ideal features
  • Drag and drop support, including dragging onto the program icon
  • Extracts by default to the same location as the file itself, ideally in a subdirectory if there's more than say 2 files
  • Should work with 7z and RAR at the minimum, but BZIP2, ARC, and ZIPX would be great too
  • Clear progress bar / time remaining note
Oddly, my current favorite for this is Lupo's Universal Extractor program. It has exceedingly broad format support and works better than the official distribution simply because it's in EXE rather than RAR format (which requires you have yet another decompression program).

Background: after spending years looking for a Mac decompression program that works better than the default tools (finally found Keka and muCommander), now I'm looking for a more Mac-like program for Windows. This is because one of the reasons compression formats like RAR, 7z, and more recently the ZIPX format haven't seen wider usage is that there isn't a dead-simple no-thinking-involved decompression method. They all have a file manager built into them, which is off-putting to non-techies.

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Anticipated question: Don't you already have your answer? Isn't the solution Lupo's Universal Extraction version?

Possibly, but some reasons it might not be ideal:
  • Sometimes Universal Extractor will extract files in a very weird way that people will just throw away without further research (beginner users will see the {app} and $NSTALL folders and just assume something broke).
  • I'd like to list something in the site Intro that doesn't create confusion between what Universal Extractor does and what we recommend for general decompression.
  • Just like the official Universal Extractor program, I don't think Lupo is working on this anymore. An actively developed, dead-simple program is of course ideal.
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is it stealth? ;)

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#3 Post by Midas »

I resisted the urge to immediately post your "anticipated question"... :mrgreen:

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#4 Post by joby_toss »

This is the simplest one I know off, but haven't looked at it for some time now: http://www.extractnow.com
Download here: http://www.extractnow.com/extractnow.zip
Mentioned here: http://www.portablefreeware.com/forums/ ... =20&t=4771
It's almost portable, and stealth not even once! :)

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Thanks everyone for your responses ...
freakazoid wrote:DropIt?
No, the first thing you get prompted for is "No association found for: whatever.7z ... Do you want to create an association for it? Yes/No/Cancel." I don't think that's a prompt most people familiar with Windows are going to understand.
Midas wrote:I resisted the urge to immediately post your "anticipated question"
lol, thanks

Edit: adding response to Joby's bit:
Joby wrote:This is the simplest one I know off, but haven't looked at it for some time now: http://www.extractnow.com
It's now at version 4.8.2.0 and it looks great. Definitely works with everything and FAR simpler than most of the other archive tools I've tested so it's certainly a step in the right direction.
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#6 Post by freakazoid »

I'm guesing DropIt would work if you configure it to decompress 7z and rar files.

Just looked at DropIt's website and going to copy and paste a quote:
Extract: to extract supported archives in the defined destination folder (7Z, APM, ARJ, BZIP2, CAB, CHM, CPIO, DEB, DMG, EXE, FAT, FLV, GZIP, HFS, ISO, JAR, LHA, LZH, LZMA, MBR, MSI, MSLZ, NFTS, NSIS, ONEPKG, RAR, RPM, SMZIP, SQX, SWF, TAR, UDF, VHD, WIM, XAR, XZ, Z, ZIP).
Check out the guide to configure DropIt:
http://www.dropitproject.com/dokuwiki/d ... ith_dropit

Once properly configured, you could probably send your users the config file.

Could also try ArcThemAll (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=1497). The UI looks pretty clean, but I remember running into some issues with the interface.
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freakazoid wrote:Once properly configured, you could probably send your users the config file.
Thanks for the ideas, but that's WAY too much for the vast majority of users. We're looking for very basic, out-of-the-box simplicity. About the only way to do a config file change is probably a code fork.
freakazoid wrote:Could also try ArcThemAll
I believe ArcThemAll only compresses files.

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#8 Post by freakazoid »

Regarding DropIt, it's a one-time set it and forget it :)

Shouldn't be too hard.
webfork wrote:About the only way to do a config file change is probably a code fork.
Not really. You could tell the user to download the additional config file and place it in the app folder.
webfork wrote:I believe ArcThemAll only compresses files.
It also decompresses:
http://arcthemall.sourceforge.net/WebHe ... rface.html
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freakazoid wrote:Shouldn't be too hard
Sure, nobody on the site would have any issue with that but it's a question of audience. Keep in mind that a lot users never put another browser on their computer and have no idea how or why they'd get a different one. When pulling people towards using better compression, it's got to be simple. Run, drag-and-drop a file, and done. Downloading a config file and overwriting another already present file is advanced stuff for those users not to mention needing to right-click on DropIt's arrow to close the program when you're done.

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#10 Post by freakazoid »

Sure, I understand audience. But, at some point, people have to learn.

DropIt has a somewhat, decent written guide to configure associations, which does require a tiny bit of know-how.

If your audience is for older folk whom have never touched a computer before, then I understand.
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Problem with blind drag and drop extraction is it's a coin flip whether the contents are within a directory or bare files. I always hated extracting things only to see a neat folder suddenly filled with various extracted files.

Is 7zip not easy enough (right-click, Extract Here or Extract to Folder)? Otherwise for a UI PeaZip above looks decent. Still the issue of extracting without a container directory, hope it takes that into consideration.

It's not clear from the posts whether it's for your own use or for non-technical users. Seems like you're looking for something simple with a drag and drop UI yourself, but also something that requires zero setup to recommend to others.

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TP109 wrote:Extractnow is great. Highly configurable yet simple - appeals to both basic and advanced users
It looks good and has a lot of features I'd love to have but sadly it's listed as ad-supported over at Softpedia. Definitely don't want to recommend that.

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So this was a test to try and find a simple decompression tool but definitely wouldn't work.

RarZilla Free Unrar Portable
  • ONLY SUPPORTS RAR ... nothing else (including ZIP).
  • DEAD simple, maybe too simple.
  • Looks nothing like the non-portable version (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Compressio ... nrar.shtml), which was why I tested it out.
  • Interface was confusing.  Drag-and-drop onto some weird picture of a ... well, something.
Site:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-S ... able.shtml

Status: Portable and Stealth (there are not settings to modify)

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[Moderator note: the PeaExtractor suggestion was split from this thread.]

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