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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:36 pm 
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with dotted horizontal rules removed, and space reduced between categories to 28 pixels

I think it's quite compact as it is. To me, removing dotted lines would make categories less separated.

Another labelling change proposal:
  • Show most recent first -> Order by date
  • Show most popular first -> Order by popularity


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Seems that detail pages are missing some information, e.g. Stealth, How to extract, License, etc:

http://test.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=1696
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http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.p ... 4&m=Search

Screenshots on detail pages would be better to be visible by default, as in details.html.

How about adding the application name to the comments headline (on the detail page)?
"X comments [RSS]" -> "X comments on MyApp [RSS]"

If a user clicks on "See all comments" in the main list, the detail page loads scrolled down to the comments section. Adding the app's name would make things clearer.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:33 am 
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Latest updates:

- Yes, it is the stylesheet. Please update the latest style.css from the zip, and wrap the username + date with a div (see index.html).
Updated and verified.

- Would it be possible to remove the pager if there's only 1 page availabe? For example in search results, category pages.
Done!

- the heart icon on the left side of the entry: now it is a duplicate. Also the star images are not the same as on my designs, is it intended?
It was a naming error that I have fixed, so the star images are yours now. The heart icon has also been gotten rid of. But I couldn't get it to indent like your index.html, so the stars are flushed to the left. Must be something in the rating.css that I am using. Mind taking a look?

- Another labelling change proposal: Show most recent first -> Order by date...
Updated to solicit feedback.

- Added new icon for animated sceenshots
Updated to solicit feedback.

- Seems that detail pages are missing some information, e.g. Stealth, How to extract, License, etc:
Fixed! Thanks for spotting this bug.

- "X comments [RSS]" -> "X comments on MyApp [RSS]"
Done!

Discussion:

- the "Updated" tags: the red arrows were originally for the "New" tags, I feel it too harsh as they are on every posts. I think the green update icon on the right is suffice.
So you want to leave out the tag entirely for "Updated" entries?
How about "Private" entries?


- I thought something like this - notice that the "All" menu this way is entirely removed.
Notice the "Latest" link is missing from your screenshot. Is that intentional?

- I noticed that fields like "Description" and "How to extract" are not showing attributes like bold/italics and others. Am I missing something? For example, Xleaner should show "Languages" under description as bold, but it does not. Stylesheet related issue?


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:00 am 
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So you want to leave out the tag entirely for "Updated" entries?

Yes. Every item has a state of updated, I see no reason to display. There is the date to the right if anyone's interested.

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How about "Private" entries?

There could get the same look as the New entries. Or do you think a new color is needed here, e.g. green?

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I noticed that fields like "Description" and "How to extract" are not showing attributes like bold/italics and others.

Stylesheet related, but not on my side :) The editor uses "b" and "i" tags, I haven't styled them because browsers should do it by default. But they don't, so I added them to the stylesheet.

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Notice the "Latest" link is missing from your screenshot. Is that intentional?

The "Applications" menu item is the "Latest" link, the arrow next to it is the "Categories". Clicking on the Applications would load the latest applications, and hovering on the arrow the popup menu. Not sure if that would be a better solution, just an idea.

2 notices:
  • On detail pages the comments toggle on top shouldn't be displayed. There should be only "Add comment" and it should scroll down to the add comment form when clicked. By adding a "scroll" class to the parent "li" should solve it (see details.html)
  • Detail pages, always visible screenshots (like on details.html): is this rejected? I think on detail pages we don't need to hide important things, users will be fine with scrolling.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:50 am 
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Would it 'cascade' into subcategories?


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:43 am 
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Some main categories have too many subcategories, e.g. Internet has more than 30. This would make the submenu too tall.

If the pop-up menu will be approved, then a new template is needed where subcategories are listed of one main category.

As I wrote I do not insist making this new menu, it is open to discussion.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:46 am 
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tproli wrote:
Yes. Every item has a state of updated, I see no reason to display. There is the date to the right if anyone's interested.

The update tag reflects a new version. The date reflects a new version and/or a modification of the entry.
Although I agree with you, perhaps is better not to remove the tag, to avoid confusion.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:39 am 
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To me the current solution seems illogical. If there's an entry updated 5 years ago, it still shows the updated tag, right?

It would make sense to me if the updated tag would be displayed for let's say 3 months and than removed. Maybe the New tag too, it is somewhat ridiculous to see a 3-year entry with the New tag, isn't it?

Otoh it is not really the content but the color that bothers me. Red is a color that means attention, danger, etc, so it is too strong. It works for New but it is too much for Update.

For example this blue is much better imo:
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I'll make this blue in the next update and you can vote.

Edit: here is all three tags - New: green, Update: blue and Private: red. Green seemed more suitable for the New tag and red more suits to Private, but feel free to share your thoughts.

http://rolandtoth.hu/pic/pfc-facelift/pfc-all-tags.png


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:23 pm 
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tproli wrote:
Maybe the New tag too, it is somewhat ridiculous to see a 3-year entry with the New tag, isn't it?

I agree with you:
lautrepay wrote:
And I think that the entries should lost the "New" label when they leave the group of the first 500.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:05 pm 
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I love the new colours for the tags and agree that (if possible) to limit having Updated & New for only 3 months, as most should have seen it by then.

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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:03 pm 
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guinness wrote:
I love the new colours for the tags and agree that (if possible) to limit having Updated & New for only 3 months, as most should have seen it by then.

The problem is: if you remove both the "updated" and the "new" tags, you will surely see never updated (but recently added, with modified entries) old apps listed before recently updated apps. And you won't know if this old app was updated or not unless you check the entry changelog.
A horrible solution: "updated by user X on ..." when it's a new version and "modified by user Z on ..." when the entry was just changed.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:20 am 
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Latest updates are out on the test page thanks to Andrew. I also got an access to modify the css/js so I can make quick fixes if needed.

Some modifications:
- offsite links open in new window
- the hover color on links are changed to lighter blue instead of red

Possible bug: entries doesn't show Forum topic links even if they are availabel, e.g. MultiCommander:

http://test.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2304
http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2304


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:54 am 
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Updates/Fixes:

- On detail pages the comments toggle on top shouldn't be displayed. There should be only "Add comment" and it should scroll down to the add comment form when clicked. By adding a "scroll" class to the parent "li" should solve it (see details.html)
Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed..

- Detail pages, always visible screenshots (like on details.html): is this rejected? I think on detail pages we don't need to hide important things, users will be fine with scrolling.
Apologies. Missed that earlier. Done.

- Possible bug: entries doesn't show Forum topic links even if they are availabel, e.g. MultiCommander
Fixed!

Discussion:

Regarding the "New" vs "Update" tags, regardless of what we call them, I think we still need names/tags to differentiate between entries that are first timers vs non first timers (as well as private entries of course). In the time-based stream, the tag serves to tell the viewer why that entry is there (newly added, version update).

Maybe we can omit the tag from popularity-based stream if that makes more sense.


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:19 am 
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Thanks for the updates.

I can live with the current (test) tags. I just made their font little smaller so it doesn't attract the eye that much as before.

I think I reached the point where I'm satisfied enough with the design. So I will sit back and wait for the missing pages to appear :)


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 Post subject: Re: New designs for TPFC by tproli
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:00 pm 
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Suggestion:

This topic discusses advanced search features:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16964

Adding these infos (and other tips) to the Detailed search page might be useful.


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