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Good Old XP

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:28 am
by billon

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:47 am
by Midas

Re: Good Old XP

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:38 pm
by __philippe
Even staid business publications are praising Microsoft surprising move to provide a specific security update for Good Old XP, (16-year-Old, actually),
after support was discontinued back in 2014

from FORBES :

    Microsoft Did Something Unexpected To Protect Windows Users From WannaCrypt Ransomware

Re: Good Old XP

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:46 pm
by webfork
__philippe wrote:Even staid business publications are praising Microsoft surprising move to provide security update for Good Old XP, (16-year-Old, actually)
I'm not super surprised given that this is a PR nightmare for Microsoft. Here they've spent millions to scrub their reputation as being insecure by design versus Mac and Linux and now one coordinated attack could take all that away. You should definitely expect any group thinking about running a pure Windows shop to hesitate.
midas wrote:Another interesting article from the same source: Windows 10 Now Looking like Windows XP Because Good Operating Systems Never Die
That's awesome. I'm definitely going to make that happen when I eventually move to Win10.

Good Old XP - June 13th critical updates

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:36 am
by __philippe
Microsoft just announced yet another unexpected release of critical updates for out-of-support XP and Vista
(no less than 12 distinct KB patches, addressing sundry vulnerabilities)

MS official "Guidance for older platforms" details here.

ArsTechnica's Dan Goodin offers an interesting opinion on the controversial subject of continuing out-of-support products updates.

ArsTechnica's Peter Bright maintains a contrarian view.

This unusual out-of-support update comes amidst a flurry of security updates released for in-support systems, as discussed here.

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:01 am
by SYSTEM
smaragdus wrote:Eugene Kaspersky - That’s It. I’ve Had Enough! - Microsoft kills off independent software vendors by foisting its products on users that are in no way better
Microsoft has responded: https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech ... -Antivirus
Jeremy Hellstrom wrote: Microsoft replied with their view of this dispute, stating that they do indeed disable antivirus programs when there is a risk that a Windows update would stop the third party antivirus from running anyways.

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:51 am
by Midas
Intriguing read into the brave new world of the latest Windows: :shock:

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:59 am
by joby_toss
I'm also experiencing some issues with latest windows 10 updates (creator's update or whatever it's called): poor performance in games (Diablo 3 for example starts 10 times slower than before, hangs randomly and overheats my machine, unlike before) and also CPU usage while watching a youtube video went from 2-3% to a whooping 30%. I have no drive to investigate or do whatever... don't really care anymore...

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:40 pm
by Userfriendly
joby_toss wrote:I'm also experiencing some issues with latest windows 10 updates (creator's update or whatever it's called): poor performance in games (Diablo 3 for example starts 10 times slower than before, hangs randomly and overheats my machine, unlike before) and also CPU usage while watching a youtube video went from 2-3% to a whooping 30%. I have no drive to investigate or do whatever... don't really care anymore...
Turn off the Game Bar and Game Mode. Find it in Settings > Gaming. Worth a shot. Its probably the cause. Also update graphics drivers as usual.

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:22 am
by smaragdus
More good news for Windows 10 users:
Windows 10 is no longer supported on this PC
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/07/18/windo ... n-this-pc/

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:29 pm
by webfork
smaragdus wrote:More good news for Windows 10 users: Windows 10 is no longer supported on this PC
Yeah I saw that too. That's very frustrating.

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:24 pm
by Userfriendly
smaragdus wrote:More good news for Windows 10 users: Windows 10 is no longer supported on this PC
I wouldn't solely put the blame on Microsoft for this one.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/07 ... date-ever/
The bad news is that the block on the Creators Update appears to be permanent. The problem is the GPU drivers; Clover Trail Atoms use GPU technology licensed from Imagination Technologies. Imagination appears unwilling, and Intel appears unable, to update the GPU drivers to meet the demands of the Creators Update. So systems built with such hardware will never be upgradable beyond the Anniversary Update.

The good news is that Microsoft has said that it will provide such systems with security fixes until 2023, thereby reinstating the supported lifetime that such machines were supposed to have in the first place. Luckily for Microsoft, the Anniversary Update already had a corresponding long-term servicing branch version (LTSB), so the company was already intending to release security fixes for this version of Windows until 2023.
Intel/Imagination won't provide updated drivers so Microsoft has no choice but to block Creators Update from installing. But they will still provide security fixes for the Anniversary Update version until 2023. This is just planned obsolescence by hardware manufacturers. Nothing surprising here.

Anyone using these old low end mobile devices wouldn't care about this anyway.

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:03 pm
by SYSTEM
smaragdus wrote:Eugene Kaspersky - That’s It. I’ve Had Enough! - Microsoft kills off independent software vendors by foisting its products on users that are in no way better
Microsoft will stop disabling third-party AVs in the Fall Creators Update, and Kaspersky has withdrawn their complaint: https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/ne ... -10-tweaks

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:43 am
by SYSTEM
Userfriendly wrote:
joby_toss wrote:I'm also experiencing some issues with latest windows 10 updates (creator's update or whatever it's called): poor performance in games (Diablo 3 for example starts 10 times slower than before, hangs randomly and overheats my machine, unlike before) and also CPU usage while watching a youtube video went from 2-3% to a whooping 30%. I have no drive to investigate or do whatever... don't really care anymore...
Turn off the Game Bar and Game Mode. Find it in Settings > Gaming. Worth a shot. Its probably the cause. Also update graphics drivers as usual.
Microsoft has admitted that Creators Update introduced gaming performance issues, and published one fix to Insiders: https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-a ... ors-update

Re: Windows 9 is... Windows 10

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:48 am
by Napiophelios
well I finally had to give up my xp machine
I have been using Win10 for about a week now,
and I can't say it's a bad OS....but I just don't like it.

It's a "modern" OS so everything from GitHub desktop to Chromium to Blender works without a glitch...that's nice enough.
I also like being able to watch my xbox movies on the desktop...that's about it.

Don't get me wrong, it's smooth as butter; the new computer has awesome specs compared to my old one
so it handles the OS very well.
I just don't like the "feel" of it, if that's even such a thing.


I just took Peppermint 8 for a test drive...and It's pretty awesome
I just need to learn about setting up my wifi before I switch over.
that's the only problem I ran in to, it doesn't recognize my hardware.
Wish me luck!