Well, Andrew switched the entry seven hours
after you suggested switching it.
VLC was known-broken since about 2008 ( viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3848
) and the media library (core functionality) was completely broken as you moved PCs for well over a year yet no mention was made in the listing on PFC and no move was made to switch to a fully portable package like VLC Portable. That's more what I was referring to.
AFAIK, VLC was originally natively portable. It has become less and less portable over time. No one suggested switching the entry simply because the change was so slow. I think such "kinda, sorta, a little bit portable listings" aren't normally allowed.
VLC was kinda sorta portable a long time ago but hadn't been in years when the listing was finally updated to VLC Portable. There have been quite a few discussions where it was argued that a given listing should be the main app with the instructions to make portable (extract from installer, change setting, X is left behind, Y doesn't work) over a fully-portable PortableApps.com Format package. In nearly all of those, the 'native' kinda portable version won out. I may disagree with that choice, but it is the way things work and what Andrew and the other longtime members prefer.
Indeed, there isn't any official guideline.
Perhaps there should be. And it should be figured prominently so that users know exactly what to expect.
Still, the word "violate" is a bit harsh. IMO, using that word requires more authority than you have.
We have guidelines for what a portable app is. And many apps listed here don't follow those guidelines, violating key parts like not leaving things behind and adjusting paths. These guidelines are, for the most part, the most commonly-accepted rules for what make an app portable. Partially due to the fact that PortableApps.com is the most popular and largest provider of portable software. And partially due to the fact that the first modern portable app, Portable Firefox
, was created by our team back in 2004. While it's perfectly acceptable for other people to have different guidelines to work from, I think most people expect an app to fully work as you move PCs and not leave things behind in order to be called 'portable'.
Correct. I just said you (unintentionally?) created that impression.
I still don't think I did, but if I did to some folks, I apologize for that. If it did leave personal stuff, I'd have said that. I said 'things' because that seems to be the policy, that leaving certain 'things' behind is acceptable. I don't think you or I necessarily know what all those things are.
I'm aware of that and have thought it myself. See also: FileZilla entry
That seems like it was a user not following all the instructions. Perhaps there should be a general set of guidelines on how to follow the instructions, understanding what the listing means and what PFC considers 'portable' linked to from every page. We do this on PortableApps.com with our What is a Portable App? page.
Use care when downloading from Portable Freeware Collection as they have a different definition of what is 'portable' than we do. Unless an application is 'stealth', it may leave files and registry entries behind. Minor things like recent file list may be broken as well. By contrast, our guidelines guarantee that nothing is left behind and nothing breaks as you move PCs.
Except that's not entirely accurate, as with some apps more important things are broken like themes, custom backgrounds, logs, smiley packs, etc. And if an app isn't listed as 'stealth' it will (not may) leave files or registry entries as well (otherwise it would be listed as stealth). You'd need to read the individual listing to see what and the listing may not specify.
IIRC, there was a long argument about switching from Pidgin to Pidgin portable in the database despite the fact that lots of different things (smiley themes, some plugins, logging in many cases, etc) were broken. PFC folks, in general, overlook things that they don't consider core functionality despite the fact that many other users may consider a lot of those things part of the app that should just work. So, saying that "Minor things like recent file list may be broken" is inaccurate. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it differs from what a large number of folks consider 'portable'. Once again, different niche.
Glad we can agree on something